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Offline Fenrhyl Wulfson

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Real world heroes
« on: October 24, 2012, 11:34:19 AM »
This is a simple topic: who are you real heroes?

Heroes don’t need to be perfect, they are just ordinary or brilliant people that just DO what must be done when everybody else DON’T. They are human: they may have lied, cheated, even commited crimes or just been overall biggots. But at one point in their lives they set an example.

Why this topic, now? Well today, Roland de la Poype died (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_de_la_Poype). Death means oblivion, and there are some people who must no be forgotten.

Among those, here are my heroes.

Gaucher de Châtillon, French Knight, Constable of Philippe le Bel and his sons. A grim old soldier that fought relentlessly to keep the kingdom at peace regardless the poisonings and betrayals that regurlarly rocked the court. Right after the royal army was crushed at Cortrijk by the flemmish militia, he was named constable and led another army in Flanders, that stalled the revolt and brought back several cities under the king’s sway. 76 and 80 years old, he fought at the forefront at the battles of La reole and Cassel. His judgement was unfortunately obscured by his hatred of the English crown, which he blamed for the events in Flanders, and played a part in the worsening of the relations between the two kingdoms.

Francis Drake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Drake

Pierre Terrail, seigneur de Bayard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Terrail,_seigneur_de_Bayard)

Jeanne Laisné (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Hachette)

Jean de Beaumanoir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_de_Beaumanoir)

William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marshal,_1st_Earl_of_Pembroke)

Philippe II Auguste (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_II_of_France)

Dante Alighieri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Alighieri)

Sitting Bull (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull)

Georges Clémenceau, le Tigre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Clemenceau).

Antoine de St-Exupéry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_de_Saint-Exup%C3%A9ry).

My Great grandfather and grandfather, who fought like lions when so many people accepted defeat and let horror walk the streets.

Who are yours?

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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 12:39:08 AM »
As someone with a lived experience of mental illness, my heroes are my peers who continue to strive to make their lives better, and who also act as role models for their peers in turn. I find that anyone who loses just about everything in a collapse, then starts all over again from scratch, doing it one, two, three or more times is worthy of respect and admiration.
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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 09:54:24 AM »
Wow, this will require actual thinking and time: time I don't have right now.

I will however list the two french on my list:

Ernest Dimnet.
General Rochambeau.

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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 10:57:05 AM »

  A little bit of a cop out but,   Anyone who takes nothing and turns it into something.


 Teddy Roosevelt: Because of his quote "...the rich have a lot of representation in government and I think the poor needs just as much." Or something like that.


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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 07:26:24 PM »
George Carlin - not so much a hero as an idol.
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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 05:23:54 PM »
As someone with a lived experience of mental illness, my heroes are my peers who continue to strive to make their lives better, and who also act as role models for their peers in turn. I find that anyone who loses just about everything in a collapse, then starts all over again from scratch, doing it one, two, three or more times is worthy of respect and admiration.

Indeed perseverance, when mixed with wisdom, is quite worthy of praise.

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Anyone who takes nothing and turns it into something.

it rings a bell.

I documented myself about Teddy Roosevelt, and he was quite an epic figure.

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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 11:19:37 AM »
Heroes.... in the main, my heroes are people I never learn the names of.

Like the flight deck Chief with the PKP fire extinguisher:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I

But in fairness, he's only a borderline "hero", because it was his job to be there and do that.

The guy who isn't a fireman, but runs into a burning building to rescue complete strangers, because the Fire Department isn't there yet and the people needing rescue can't wait...

The guy who risks getting run down while he puts out flares and directs traffic around the wreck on the fogged in freeway, where the people involved in the wreck are folks he never learns the names of and will never see again....

The guy who runs toward the hazmat-placarded truck overturned on the road, to make sure the driver gets out safely...

The guys who turn out in the hundreds or thousands, often taking time away from their paid jobs and their families, to go out into the wilderness and hunt for someone who's missing...

The guy who automatically dives in, and possibly ends up drowning himself, trying to save a random child in distress in the water...

The guy who stops in the middle of his evacuation from the incoming hurricane, and sends his family on their way while he stays on the side of the road along the evacuation route, offering food and water to those who have been stuck in the evac traffic jam for hours or days...

...those are heroes.

And the fact that you never learn their names is part of what makes them heroes, to my mind. They're amateurs. I agree with Bobby Jones on the subject of amateurs. From the Latin word for 'love'. They do those things for love of their fellow men, or because their own self-love wouldn't survive them refusing to jump to the rescue.

Don't get me wrong, I have an immense respect for firemen, for cops, for EMTs, for Marines... but nonetheless, Bobby was right: Once you do it for money, you can't call it love anymore.
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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 08:33:21 PM »
Actually, when you do something for love, and get paid for it too.... well, then you're just blessed.
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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 11:02:06 PM »
Especially if you get paid for working with RM :D
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Re: Real world heroes
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2012, 06:21:21 AM »
Actually, when you do something for love, and get paid for it too.... well, then you're just blessed.

Well yes, that's true. Been there, done that. For many years as a stagehand I told people that "I don't work for a living, I play for a living. Because people are paying me, I play hard." And yes, absolutely I was blessed.

Nonetheless, I was taking gigs to pay the rent and buy food, not because it was something fun to do with my time (even though it was).
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