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RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« on: August 13, 2009, 03:31:33 PM »
 Would you allow a RR vs Fear/Awe for PC's if opponents are using a Aura Spell?
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 06:06:55 PM »
I personally do.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 06:14:24 PM »
Quote from: OLF, i.e. Olf Le Fol on August 13, 2009, 06:06:55 PM
I personally do.
Thanks I am fairly sure that I am going to have a Fear/Awe RR bonus category and I am trying to think of things that it would be used for besides the normal things.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2009, 10:50:39 PM »
+10 to Seduction and
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 10:52:28 PM »
+ 10 to Seduction AND Public Speaking as well, IMHO.

But wouldn't it make you more of a target in darkness or at night? Ala Faerie Fire...
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 11:29:51 PM »
In RMSS gamemaster law, there are rules for handling such RRs
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2009, 12:05:42 AM »
Quote from: Fenrhyl Wulfson on August 13, 2009, 11:29:51 PM
In RMSS gamemaster law, there are rules for handling such RRs
I will have to go back and check that.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2009, 07:09:51 AM »
Quote from: providence13 on August 13, 2009, 10:52:28 PM
But wouldn't it make you more of a target in darkness or at night? Ala Faerie Fire...
It depends on whether you consider these auras to be metaphorical (as in "the woman was so pure there was like an aura of holiness around her") or actual.
For my part, I consider them to be the former so, no, they don't make the one they surround more of a target in darkness or at night. (As a note, only the Aura Magic spells in RoCoV explicitely write that their Aura spells make one's magical aura "visible to normal visions.)
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 07:25:24 AM »
Quote from: markc on August 13, 2009, 03:31:33 PM
Would you allow a RR vs Fear/Awe for PC's if opponents are using a Aura Spell?
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No, unless the spell clearly states that enemies must make a RR. Use Fear spell if you want to instill magical Fear.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 10:29:27 AM »
agreed no light from aura spells but there is another thing to be considered. In combat some enemies will be more inclined to attack the most powerful looking adversary and other will be inclined to target the weakest they can find. Thus having an aura spell active could potentially either make you more or less of a target.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2009, 11:32:52 AM »
Quote from: Arioch on August 14, 2009, 07:25:24 AM
Quote from: markc on August 13, 2009, 03:31:33 PM
Would you allow a RR vs Fear/Awe for PC's if opponents are using a Aura Spell?
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No, unless the spell clearly states that enemies must make a RR. Use Fear spell if you want to instill magical Fear.

 I am not looking to instill fear but I am looking for more cases in which if there was a RR vs Awe save category that it would be used. IMO I do think that the Aura spells is a valid place to use the Awe RR.


 Now how would you use the RR? Would the person save vs the casters level? The spells level? The ranks in the list if you do not use level of caster?

Thanks all.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2009, 12:42:26 PM »
My house rule is to use the Handling Fear table in RoCoII, p18, §5.1, with the formula: 1d100 + 5 x (Levelcharacter - Levelspell) + Will1/5 - 101.

1 This is the Will stat as defined in RoCoI, added to the Arms Companion's "Way of the Warrior: Will" skill rank bonus.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 02:06:19 PM »
I don't think I would use it Markc. too much dice rolling. I pretty much exclusively use RR for spells that stipulate that you get a RR.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 03:54:13 PM »
I agree with Nders, plus Aura already simulate the awe-inspiring effect by giving a bonus to your DB... if you want to use the Awe attack chart for it I'd suggest you to remove that bonus and/or move the spell up a few levels.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2009, 06:49:19 PM »
Quote from: Arioch on August 14, 2009, 03:54:13 PM
I agree with Nders, plus Aura already simulate the awe-inspiring effect by giving a bonus to your DB... if you want to use the Awe attack chart for it I'd suggest you to remove that bonus and/or move the spell up a few levels.

 Actually I was going to allow the person who was fighting the Aura character a save to negate the DB bonus or a bonus to other social skills.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2009, 06:57:12 PM »
I see what you are getting at but I think there would simply be too much resisting (rolling) if you start down that road. Would I for example be allowed to resist a blur, a fluid combat, a shadow, a or a strength spell? no you don't get to resist spells that are affecting someone else - even when that spell effect has an effect on you.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2009, 07:32:20 PM »
Quote from: Nders on August 14, 2009, 06:57:12 PM
I see what you are getting at but I think there would simply be too much resisting (rolling) if you start down that road. Would I for example be allowed to resist a blur, a fluid combat, a shadow, a or a strength spell? no you don't get to resist spells that are affecting someone else - even when that spell effect has an effect on you.
I would say no to most of those but IMO Aura type spells are not that noticeable and IMO should be able to be RRed. But I will try it out and let you know.
Thanks for your input.
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Re: RR vs Fear/Awe for Aura Spells?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2009, 09:37:55 PM »
For what's it worth, which ain't much, I would only allow a RR if the rules/spell description allowed.

But your ideas/thoughts on it are cool!
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