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Why is Companion VII so expensive
« on: October 29, 2020, 10:02:32 PM »
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I have one completed set of RM2 books and now I’m close to having a second one, you know in case the first falls apart.
The two books I need to complete the part of the collection I want would be Companion VII. Prices I-V were reasonable, VI was a little bit of a stretch but VII!?! Between 100 and 1,000 is dollars!?!

I have always wondered why this price.
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2020, 10:55:41 PM »
Because it has the Armsmaster class, which is awesome, and because it finally corrects the error in earlier companions' initiative systems that led some people to think Instantaneous meant an action took no activity %.

I'm joking of course. I have no idea.
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2020, 11:09:44 PM »
You wrote the Armsmaster class, didn’t you?
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2020, 08:47:22 AM »
You wrote the Armsmaster class, didn’t you?

Haha, no, I just really like it, because I think it fills an important niche (a Mentalism user who wears heavy armor -- which makes sense given that Mentalism is the easiest spellcasting realm to use while wearing heavy armor). Companion VII actually lists who wrote what, so the Armsmaster was written by 'Ed Cassidy'. Also, Nicholas (the head of ICE currently) did the later Mentalism Companion, which included an updated version of the Armsmaster, with new spell lists.
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2020, 07:18:14 PM »
I checked my collection and I only have 1 but it looks like 2 others have gone missing, so I cant help you out.
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2020, 03:33:14 AM »
Thank you for checking. I have VI. I think I’ll pass on CT III and just hope that one day VII appears at an affordable rate
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2020, 12:37:20 PM »
My guess would be availability. Being the last of them less were likely printed?
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2020, 01:39:48 PM »
Maybe it also overlapped with the rollout of RMSS, meaning it became obsolete pretty quickly?
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2020, 02:03:37 PM »
It looks as if I am missing a complete set of RoCo 1-VII, CT 1-III I only have 1 set.


In general when I see old RM2 books the later RoCo's are books I tend to not see.



You may want to check out Powles City of Books in Portland, OR. I was in there quite a few years ago and saw quite a few old RM books, which I was very surprised to see.
Note: At the time they did not show a lot of RM2 books on line for some reason.


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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2020, 02:26:56 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-6-Rolemaster-RPG-Books-Dungeons-and-Dragons/154164585277?hash=item23e4ece33d:g:JHYAAOSwRtlfmPk6


The above is a link to EBay that has some core RM2 books that close today for a decent price.


I was very surprised to see the prices for RM2 books and I think I might sell some of my extras.


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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2020, 03:33:52 PM »
I got a mint condition here in Denmark for around 10 euro last year.
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2020, 08:15:25 PM »
Looking at prices and what is out there I am thinking about selling my 80+ Book; RM1, RM2, SM (RM2 ver) and MERP collection. I think just looking real quickly I should price it around $50 per book which would be around $4000 USD +shipping.
A good price per book as well as the fact that I do not think I am missing very many RM2+WL, SM2 (only the comp but I do have AA, SS and 3 SS ship books) and a few good MERP products. I sold my 3 MERP cities books back in the mid 90's for a very good chunk of $.


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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2020, 09:47:28 PM »
I have a complete collection back in Denmark and after a 10 break I am rebuilding here in Japan. Sadly, used RM companions are rare and few in between over here.
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2020, 06:53:27 AM »
My friend just brought me a gift last weekend of most of RM2 books, including the core box set with the box in fantastic condition.  All of the books look unused.  He said he ordered it from an auction site (not eBay) and it was shipped from UK to the US.  He said the price was great but being a gift, he didn't say.  He saw the condition of the books I use and he thought it would be a great gift for me to keep as a "shelf copy" to go with the "working copies.  RMC-I actually has all of the pages still bound!  Seriously, the books look like they were never opened.

The books exist, and they can be found mostly in US and UK.  I've not found any great deals in Canada which is strange.  For Christmas 2018, I bought all of my regular players copies of RMC-II and Elemental Companion as gifts, four copies each, all in excellent condition.  It takes time, but you'll find them.

As for RMC-VI and VII, I have to agree with Corey Magel.  I think ICE just didn't print as many.  Of course I have no proof, but RMSS was coming out and focus seemed to have shifted to the new system.  Also, RMC-V and VI were "ok", probably not super sellers and perhaps ICE cut back on printing based on sales of those previous books.

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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2020, 11:28:56 AM »
SL, WL, Dark Space, Star Strike and Armored Assault are all hard to find and can be $$$ even when I was looking back in the late 90's for them.


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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2022, 05:07:47 PM »
It would be interesting to know what would be value of my collection 98 real books. Included all Shadow World books, all Companions etc. ???
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2022, 05:03:03 AM »
OOP gaming books can be expensive -I know people who collect gaming books just to have them. I'll tell you one thing: I've had several gaming friends who have passed away and a good portion of their collections have been tossed by uncaring relatives or eventually found in Goodwill or Salvation Army stores. So make a will to have your treasures sent to a good home or sold at decent collectors' prices.
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Re: Why is Companion VII so expensive
« Reply #17 on: Today at 04:31:29 PM »
Maybe it also overlapped with the rollout of RMSS, meaning it became obsolete pretty quickly?

RMCVII was 1993, RMSS came out 1995

But i remember that both RMCVI and RMCVII never had much circulation here in Austria.

Some of the Nordics still carry RM2 and MERP stuff for a steal.
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