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Title: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 07, 2019, 11:17:54 PM
Please post any errata or corrections you find here. We'll fix errors, and periodically post a free PDF update at Drivethru. Thanks!
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: terefang on November 08, 2019, 04:40:00 AM
bookmarks (pdf annotations) dont work

xpdf shows the following errors:

Syntax Error: failed to look up (p5)
Syntax Warning: Bad named destination value
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: terefang on November 08, 2019, 05:04:55 AM
after analyzing a little bit...

seams your multiple load/save has discarded the Names dictionary from the PDF Catalog entry hence missing all named destinations of the bookmarks/annotations (in pdf speek)
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 08, 2019, 06:33:17 AM
after analyzing a little bit...

seams your multiple load/save has discarded the Names dictionary from the PDF Catalog entry hence missing all named destinations of the bookmarks/annotations (in pdf speek)

THose bookmarks are generated by Acrobat. I normally wait until we have a round of errata and then I rebuild the PDF and manually create the Bookmarks (which is tedious, believe me).
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 08, 2019, 08:15:41 AM
Thank for posting this. How long do we have before any corrections need to be ready for the print edition?
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 08, 2019, 10:28:26 AM
I found what might be a contradictory piece of text.

On Page 17 in the paragraph on The Gryphon. The device is refered to as a Lords of Essænce Orb. However on Page 25 in the 4980 paragraph the text refers to the device as Taranian.

I realize the difference may be intentional, Zener could be wrong, the Taranian's could have discovered a Lords of Essænce Orb and then the Zorians rediscovered it, etc...  I thought I would point it out in case this is an unintended conflict between the new and old works.

Regardless of which it is I'd probably go with Lords of Essænce in my own game, just because who else would leave a thermonuclear weapon lying around where primitives could poke at it with their sharp sticks? XD
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: terefang on November 08, 2019, 12:20:36 PM
page 248 -- some stray text "scale" in the upper right
page 249 -- stray "!!!" in the upper left
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 09, 2019, 03:21:49 AM
Thank for posting this. How long do we have before any corrections need to be ready for the print edition?

We are doing a small run for Dragonmeet in the UK at the end of the month (I just uploaded the files, with latest corrections), but for general availability we like to wait a couple of weeks after the release of the PDF to integrate errata, then release the print editions.
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 09, 2019, 03:46:58 AM
There is a PDF file of the Haalkitaine city map. This is included in the book, but the map was designed at 17" x 22" and I intended to attach it to the book download, but that apparently is not practical. So I am attaching it here. as a free download. You can take it to your local printer, or even UPS or other store that has a large-format printer and they should be able to print out the file. I'd be interested to hear how that goes!

Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: terefang on November 09, 2019, 08:22:06 AM
There is a PDF file of the Haalkitaine city map. This is included in the book, but the map was designed at 17" x 22" and I intended to attach it to the book download, but that apparently is not practical. So I am attaching it here. as a free download. You can take it to your local printer, or even UPS or other store that has a large-format printer and they should be able to print out the file. I'd be interested to hear how that goes!

this is the same map as the drivethrurpg download
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 09, 2019, 08:31:40 AM

We are doing a small run for Dragonmeet in the UK at the end of the month (I just uploaded the files, with latest corrections), but for general availability we like to wait a couple of weeks after the release of the PDF to integrate errata, then release the print editions.

Ok, I have some more I will get written up today. The major one I noticed is on Page 45 in the left column bottom most paragraph. The text reads "the youngest daughter of the duke of ? ? ? has been having numerous embroidery parties". The ? ? ? is a placeholder that maybe didn't get filled in?

I had to add spaces between the question marks or they get turned into an emoji.
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 09, 2019, 11:10:31 AM
There is a PDF file of the Haalkitaine city map. This is included in the book, but the map was designed at 17" x 22" and I intended to attach it to the book download, but that apparently is not practical. So I am attaching it here. as a free download. You can take it to your local printer, or even UPS or other store that has a large-format printer and they should be able to print out the file. I'd be interested to hear how that goes!

this is the same map as the drivethrurpg download

I am not aware that the map is available through Drivethru
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 09, 2019, 11:42:53 AM
So, Haalkitaine is done, time for a nap. Just kidding! Working on Emer IV, an adventure, and some very special new Arnak evil Spell Lists.
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 09, 2019, 02:35:17 PM
Page 24: the year c. 3500 isn't boldface.

Page 25: In the 5899 - 5905 section there is another one of those subscript 9s in the number 5905 at the end of the paragraph.

Page 28: The year 1300 isn't boldface.

Page 30: The year 5998 isn't boldface.

Page 34. Another one of those runic symbol characters in place of a G in the word Spring.

Page 35: Same g in spring as 34.

Other examples of the word spring are showing a normal G, like in Spring 6054 page 40. I've opened the document on a Mac, on an iPad and on PC and the runic character on Pages 20, 34, and 35 is present on all three systems. If you copy and paste it into another file you get a normal g. Hopefully you see this character and the subscript numerals on your own masters, but if not I could PM you a screenshot so you can see what I am referring to.

Page 40: Under Fall 6054: to their former greatness, even finding their legendary dragon. I'm wondering if maybe there is a word missing from the part after the comma?

Page 41: the word "at" right after 2•40 - 2•50 isn't capitalized. On the same page 3•45 isn't boldface.

Page 51: In the House Servants section the instead would seem to contradict the thought to the left of the semi-colon.

Page 51: In section 3.0 the text they are in the oppressive city. I'm wondering if the word oppressive is something other than intended?

At the very start of the second column on Page 51 you have Orhan is half full. right after a semi-colon at the end of the first column on 51. I think there is a word missing from that sentence.

I want to say on these last few I'm really not trying to nitpick your work here. I've always liked your writing. I just want to point out stuff that might not be what you intended before the print copies are made. Hopefully I'm not coming off as disrespectful of your work, because that's definitely not intended. 
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 09, 2019, 08:57:47 PM
Jenkyna,

Not at all disrespectful; I appreciate the feedback and corrections. I will note that the 'g' in Spring is an alternate character of the Galahad typeface that I employed in a few instances, apparently with mixed success.  :-[
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 09, 2019, 09:44:01 PM
I will note that the 'g' in Spring is an alternate character of the Galahad typeface that I employed in a few instances, apparently with mixed success.  :-[

Oh, I didn't mean it was bad. I was more worried that something might have gone wrong with a font, or when the .pdf was generated. If it's intentional it's totally fine as is. I read it as a g at the start, and it wasn't until I looked at it more closely that I realized it was a bit different.
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 10, 2019, 04:03:37 AM
I will note that the 'g' in Spring is an alternate character of the Galahad typeface that I employed in a few instances, apparently with mixed success.  :-[

Oh, I didn't mean it was bad. I was more worried that something might have gone wrong with a font, or when the .pdf was generated. If it's intentional it's totally fine as is. I read it as a g at the start, and it wasn't until I looked at it more closely that I realized it was a bit different.

It's like the large screened out first word in the chapter introduction text where I try to get all designerish and stylistic. My editor thought it was some kind of error. Oh, well!  :-)
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: MisterK on November 10, 2019, 08:47:56 AM
The apparent inconsistency in the name of the wife of Duke Elrad is still there:
[chronology, p31; "6029: Birth of Kalen Avanir, son of Duke Elrad and Irisa Avanir]
[chronology, p43; "Winter 6057 1.1 [The Duke of Prevan's Enven wife Isil becomes pregnant" and
 chronology, p45; "Fall 6057 Isil gives birth, it is a girl]
 Dukes and Courtesy Titles, p68 "When Isil Aliouné married the Duke of Prevan (...)"
 The Dukes / Kaytha, p72 "+ Her Grace Isil Irellion Avanir, the Duchess of Prevan]

It looks like Isil is indeed the Duchess of Prevan and Elrad's wive. The chronology p31 seems incorrect (mistake between Isil and Irisa, which is also mentioned in Chronology p30 "5970: [birth of Erlin twins Irisa and Irina on the isle of Veriadar, off the SE coast of Urulan] and p31 "6031: During a solar eclipse and conjunction, Irina of Veriadar (now living in Prevan under the care of her sister) awakens (...)]"
The only problem is that the above fits with Irisa being Elrad's wife and the fact that Jad Hurok (Irina's son) is good friends with - and the squire of - Kalen Avanir. Furthermore, the text p65 indicates that Jad is indeed Kalen's cousin.

Isil = Irisa ? It would solve everything. You just need to choose which name is the correct one and search/replace the other :)

Unless Irisa died between 6029 and 6057 and Elrad remarried... once again with an elf ? I know Elrad does not want to play the political games of the court (and thus would likely marry whoever he wants, consequences be damned), but I was not under the impression that elves were that welcome in Rhakhaan.
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 10, 2019, 09:16:39 AM
Unless Irisa died between 6029 and 6057 and Elrad remarried... once again with an elf ? I know Elrad does not want to play the political games of the court (and thus would likely marry whoever he wants, consequences be damned), but I was not under the impression that elves were that welcome in Rhakhaan.

Kalen's mother is still alive per other parts of the text, so that wouldn't be the case.
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 10, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
Unless Irisa died between 6029 and 6057 and Elrad remarried... once again with an elf ? I know Elrad does not want to play the political games of the court (and thus would likely marry whoever he wants, consequences be damned), but I was not under the impression that elves were that welcome in Rhakhaan.

Kalen's mother is still alive per other parts of the text, so that wouldn't be the case.

She is still alive and healthy. Let's talk about those mysterious bracelets that Kalen and Jad have...
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: terefang on November 10, 2019, 01:52:09 PM
I am not aware that the map is available through Drivethru

it is on my Haalkitaine download dated "2019-11-06 16:19:15"
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 10, 2019, 05:24:11 PM
It's like the large screened out first word in the chapter introduction text where I try to get all designerish and stylistic. My editor thought it was some kind of error. Oh, well!  :-)

I got to the subsection on the Nightwings and that character is perfect for that header.
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Terry K. Amthor on November 11, 2019, 12:52:26 AM
Haalkitaine has gone Copper in Drivethru! Thank you all! Please leave a review when you have had a chance to read the new huge edition. :-)
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Neee-Wom on November 11, 2019, 06:42:07 AM
Not ready yet for a review but some errata, please note that all the ??? are 3? in original text but forum coding shows the icon:

Internal coherence
Page 74
Celimé Linos is married to Denys Korian, also in previous edition Alec was the son of Denys and Celimé, in new edition seems to be brother of Denys.

Page 81
Here Celimé  is married to Garrag Virellion, younger brother of Myso Virellion, the Marquess of Trollsgrave

Page 198
...the High Prests Osaran of Dansart and "???" of Thargondaak..., who both want control of what is arguably the largest city in the continent   I thaught Lethys was largest than Haalkitaine

Page 209
Who is Princess Yanise? Is it only a way to not use Toren or is there more family we do not know? In page 112 there is also King Kier may marry one of the Emperor’s daughters


Errata
Page 45
The youngest daughter of the Duke of ??? has been

Page 158
Leads to ???

Page 115
Under Demira Spells: Evil Cleric Base: ???.

Page 198
...the High Prests Osaran of Dansart and ??? of Thargondaak..., who both want control of what is arguably the largest city in the continent

Page 219
X.X House Feud instead of 18.2, all numeration fails for RM2


Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 11, 2019, 06:39:47 PM
Sorry if some of these have already been called out. I'd also note that my PDF reader adds it's own page numbers. I tried to be careful and use the page numbers from the book and not the reader, but it's possible a few of these are off by a page or two. If you aren't finding something let me know and I will double check the page numbers.

Page 52 under 6.0 Education: Text at the end of the first paragraph reads barely illiterate. Should this be barely literate?

Page 59 In the third paragraph under 11.0 Love, Courtship & Marriage: Text reads Jaiman controls most of the continent. Should probably rbe Rhakhann controls most of the continent.

Page 61 under Zyta Nikaru: In the last sentence of the first paragraph text reads and a good listener, but I think it was intended to be and is a good listener.

Page 61 under Cedris Eltar: Text near the middle of the paragraph reads and may on occasion reveals too much. I think it was intended to be reveal too much.

Page 71 under Kora Bytara Faslurin: The last sentence begins with Thile, and I am pretty sure you meant to write While.

Page 75 there is a double space between miles & beyond in the last sentence of the paragraph at the top of the page.

Page 85: Gender is missing from all the RM2 stats. It’s present on all the RMSS stats on Page 88. Page 85 & 88 are missing page numbers, but maybe that’s deliberate because they are charts?

Page 85 Kalen II (6410 – 6457) There is what looks to be an italicized = sign instead of a hyphen between the word begin & 6450.

Page 92 Parliament Meetings. The same ; Orhan is half-full from earlier. Not sure if this is just your notation style or if it should read when Orhan is half full. Also under the same heading the text reads to jusdge recent, and I am pretty sure it should be to judge recent.

Page 97 Gender is missing from the RM2 stats. It’s present in the RMSS stats on 99

Page 116, 117, 118, 119 & 120. Gender is missing from some of the RM2 stats.

Page 122 Of Kynagaax isn’t boldfaced like the others.

Page 124: Gender is missing from Ren Thraysk.

Page 128: Gender is missing from all the stat blocks on this page.

Page 150: Tower Level 4 there is a stray Sitting Room text right under the tower floor plan.

Page 158: Second paragraph last sentence you have window and it’s probably meant to be windows.

Page 158 very bottom of the first column there is text in read that reads Leads to ? ? ?

Page 167: Under 88. Wigmaker the text reads from a simple fall for women. I was bit confused as to whether or not this is a typo or some term for ladies hairstyles that I am unaware of. I’m only mentioning it in case it is a typo.

Page 180 Section 2.2. Text reads tales told to children of ancient tombs. I suspect there is a comma missing.

Page 182 under Wôrim Section: Very first sentence reads top and bottoming Not sure if this should maybe read bottoming out.

Page 183 under 11. Not sure if the text reference to the powerful weapon should maybe point the reader to the stat block.

Page 186. Top of the page perhaps the reference to the small metallic bowl should point to the stat blocks.

In both 183 & 186 I figured it was probably in the stats are just went and checked that section, but it might clarify it for the reader if it was called out.

Page 188 under 35. Towards the end of the paragraph there is a sentence that ends in designates. Pretty sure that word is redundant with the earlier use of designated by.

Page 198 Section 1.7 under GM Suggestions. First paragraph last sentence a space is missing between the words alsohire. Under other notes there is a ? ? ? that I suspect should read Xenis.

Page 201 under 6.0. In the second paragraph there is a sentence that reads He demands that the constable sarrest them. I suspect this should be constables arrest.

Page 202 under Scene 4: Last sentence reads resorting the Essænce. I suspect that should read resorting to the Essænce.

Page 203: First paragraph has a sentence that reads Note that it not. I suspect that this should read Note that it’s not.

Page 206 under scenes: Under scene 1 the text reads (snd possibly. I suspect this should be (and possibly.

Page 207 under Scene Scene 5. The last sentence appears to be incomplete. Also, under The Big Picture the text reads will have to essentially retired from. I suspect this should be retire from.

Page 208 under Mila Branig: The text reads with he brother. I suspect it should read with his brother.

Page 210 at the very bottom of the first column under The Big Picture the text reads binning, and I suspect it should be beginning.

Page 214 under 14.0 First paragraph last sentence there is a space missing between tothe.

Page 213 & Page 216 seem to contradict. 213 refers to Hiigh Priestess Thargondaak and “she”. Page 216 refers to High Priest Thargondaak and “He”. I could just be missing something and these are two different characters.

Page 217 under 16.0 A social Dinner text reads S/he. Should the S here be capitalized or lower case?

Page 219 & 220 Gender is missing from the RM2 stats. In some cases there is a spot for “Sex” but the sex isn’t listed.

Page 222. Sex is missing from the first stat block. The words PrstDansart are missing a space, but maybe you didn’t have room and ran them together on purpose?

Page 227 At the very end of the text there is an At tacked on to the end of Journal.

Page 229. In the second column the word Theft is missing an “e”, but maybe this is also a space saving measure?
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: Jenkyna on November 14, 2019, 01:09:21 AM

Page 59 In the third paragraph under 11.0 Love, Courtship & Marriage: Text reads Jaiman controls most of the continent. Should probably rbe Rhakhann controls most of the continent.


Sorry, I misspelled Rhakhaan. XD
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: MisterK on December 15, 2019, 09:41:59 AM
p 75, the text description of the Tovinak family (duchy of Sanari) does not match the family tree : the family tree has been updated according to recent events (Markus executed, the rest of the family exiled except for Roney), while the text still describes the family state *before* Markus is accused of high treason.

The same discrepancy exists for the Bariel family (duchy of Calthos) in the same page.

I suspect that the text is not been updated from 1st Edition Haalkitaine, while the family tree has.
Title: Re: Haalkitaine Errata/corrections
Post by: grodog on January 18, 2020, 02:02:05 PM
Terry---

Do you know when/if the errata will be incorporated into the DriveThru files?  I'd like to order the print books, but am fine with waiting for various errata/fixes to occur first, if it's not going to be a very long time :D

Allan.