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Calming spells
« on: December 24, 2008, 10:19:41 AM »
I have a question (yes, another one) on spells.

If a bard uses 'calming song' (lvl1) on a person/creature and they fail their RR, I'm assuming that it's 'calmed and unable to take aggressive action' (as the spell description states).

The duration is 'concentration' which tells me that as long as the bard is concentrating, the person/creature cannot take aggressive action. Does this mean that the original RR stands and it never needs to be rolled again until the caster stops concentrating and wants to cast it again on the person/creature?

What if someone was going to attack the person/creature while it was being 'calmed'? Would that break the spell or would the person/creature just stand there and take the punishment until it was unconscious (or until the caster stopped concentrating)?

Would a calming spell work on a person/creature in the middle of a battle? Would he stop whatever he was doing and stand there calmed - or would there be a difficulty added to the RR because he was in the middle of some VERY aggressive action already?

Little by little the info is starting to stick in my brain! :)

Thanks for the help
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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2008, 11:02:50 AM »
 An attack on a "calmed" target usualy gives the target a second RR roll.
 
 Even if the 2ND RR is ffailed the "calmed" target can still act. i.e. Parry with a penality beacuse they arent really concerened. But they DO still understand what is going on.

 In battle I would give the combatent a+100 to their RR vs a calm or sleep type effect. Some would rule it just automaticly fails.

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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2008, 04:03:13 PM »
If a target is attacked, while under the influence of any sort of "Calm" spell, it will automatically break them out of the power of the spell. No second RR, they are immediately freed from of the spell the moment that the attack is initiated (i.e. they get to defend themselves).

Being the subject of a Calm-inducing spell will NOT, in any way, affect the ability of the targeted character/creature to defend itself from an attack (no minuses to parrying).


Targets in combat - this is more up to the GM as to whether or not the spell would work. I would recommend that the target get a +50 to RR while in combat (as the spell is trying to impose one extreme from the far end of the other extreme).

Something to keep in mind though -- Regardless of that RR, if the target is in combat, this means that they are likely fighting somebody and if the caster gets his spell off before the target's foe attacks that round, there is a very good chance that even if the spell does affect the target, the foe's incoming attack is just going to negate it anyways.

This makes Calm spells good for preventing combat, not stopping it.

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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2008, 04:35:45 PM »
This makes sense as well :)

Thanks - and have a happy xmas! :D
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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2008, 05:08:04 PM »
Craggles, this link might give you some help on how to deal with certain aspects of mind type spells against opponents. Although it deals with the sleep spell there's no reason that it can't be tweaked for charm like spells.

http://www.guildcompanion.com/scrolls/2005/apr/resistingmindattacks.html

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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2008, 05:45:20 PM »
That's brilliant!

I've just printed it out and added it to the Bards character sheets. :)

Thanks  ;D
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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2008, 07:44:10 PM »
Actually, after being subjected to a Calm spell or effect, someone who is attacked should be given a +10 bonus if and only if he is trained in Vulcan martial arts.
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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2008, 08:00:42 PM »
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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 11:07:12 PM »
That's brilliant!

I've just printed it out and added it to the Bards character sheets. :)

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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2008, 05:19:18 PM »
Now that all the xmas rush is over and done now, we'll see how upset the bard (my wife) is when she finds out the new info. :P
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Re: Calming spells
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2008, 05:25:08 PM »
 :D I'm sure the look on her face will be priceless.