Topic: Armor types and exhaustion points

[rego]

Hi, i have this question...
do you spend more exhaustion points if you have an higher AT?
i read in the ooooooooold arms companion that for AT 20 is exhaustion-point-required-for-the-action*3, but a friend of mine say it's only +3....

[yammahoper]

More ext used is an optional rule, as is everything in the old Arms Companion.

I remember the table you mention.  Normal ext expenditure is 1/2pt a round, so a multiple of 3 could be very reasonable, especially when you recall how fast ext points are recovered (a few minutes of rest will put your average high Co fighter back at full).

lynn

[markc]

 Yammahoper,
 You are right as the old Arms Comp is very optional for RMSS/FRP as it is for RM2/C.

 IMO you should ask your GM first. Second would be to show him the stuff in the book and state your case. Third we can help you stait your case but we should know what rules you are using as they can make a big difference. Also I have heard of many house rules in use for ExP's and actions, load, movement, lack of sleep, spell effects, etc.

 From what I remember ExP is 1/2 pt per round for light and med wepons and 1pt for heavy weapons. You exert more points for actions such as running and carrying heavy loads.

 I can also tell you ExP's are one of the rules frequently ignored by GM's playing RMSS/FRP as it is a lot of bookkeeping unless you are using a computerized combat tracker to aid in all the number crunching.

MDC

[Balhirath]

Yep
I ignore it all the time, since I feel that the book keeping is more trouble than it's worth.
But then again, I dont use a computerized combat tracker of any kind

[Grinnen Baeritt]

Since their are quickness penalties and MM penalties associated with the wearing of armour... it is sort of already factored in.

M/M penalties mean that the character has less chance of achieving the same distance in the same time as one not wearing armour. To do so (i.e. keep up with an unarmoured person) means travelling at a higher pace to achieve the same distance covered. Moving at a higher pace increases Exhaustion point expenditure..

Obviously this only really factors in IF you are using the Exhp rules, and generally only in cases where great distances need to be covered in a set time...or in a chase situation. Otherwise it is assumed that other party members move at the slowest rate whilst travelling...

Something that isn't factored in is the heat effects on exhaustion when wearing armour, even whilst motionless.

[rego]

i've just seen in School of Hard Knocks, reading the Armor skill:
Exhaustion point costs: soft leather 1x, rigid leather 1.5x, chain 2x, plate 3x
so maybe isn't an optional rule?
or is the multiplier(x2,x3..) used only when you use armor skill for mouving maneuvre,and not to multiply the ex points required for a melee action?

[Walt]

I hate this bookkeeping of ExP! And last Saturday my player asked why I learned for his charakter Endurance when we don?t play with ExP. He made a good point. (this I even hate more!)

So, are there any sensible, smart solutions for the bookkeeping?
And are there any kind of new rules for ExP? Because if it?s still 1/2 ExP per combat round even if you are wearing full plate I will come to the same conclusion - dump it.

[Dax]

Exhaustion nightmare:

Perhaps you find this useful:


http://www.ironcrown.com/ICEforums/index.php?topic=775.msg9975#msg9975


http://www.ironcrown.com/ICEforums/index.php?topic=2425.0

[Dark Schneider]

I think encumbrance rules are used for that. Remember that QU penalty is applied (added) to encumbrance penalty, and modified by ST.

So this limit directly your movement rate, maneuvers, etc. As you need more pace rate to move the same distance, you spend more EPs.