Topic: Stun Removal at -50?

[eskla]

Is the penalty for being stunned (-50 or -75, mitigated by 3xSD) intended to be applied to Stun Removal maneuvers?  I'm playing using the FRP ruleset.

[jdale]

Given that the Stun Removal skill explicitly lists modifiers for the number of stun rounds already, I would assume you are not supposed to also apply the maneuver penalty for being stunned. Also, the -50/-75 penalty for being stunned only applies to "movement and maneuvering", which I take as meaning actually moving around, not all "maneuvers" in the RM sense of skill checks. Most actions don't have a penalty because they are simply impossible while stunned; stun removal skill is of course an exception to that.

[Majyk]

Confirmed that this was how we played it.
Stun Removal had no malus/mods against it due to stun effects.

[Micael]

I would assume, that you need stunned maneuvring to decrease the -50 bonus to 0- otherwise it's to easy in my opinion to ignore stunning. In FRPG it's easy to get +50 in low levels especially with talent boni. Then a medium level char is effectively immune to stunning with this skill alone...the malus from stun removal is for more the one round of stun and is much less then -50. If you ignore the -50 you in fact make stun manoeuvring skill obsolete.