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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2013, 10:40:53 AM »
I'll dig into my archives, I have lists of books with SW stuff in them from the old Rolemaster FR mailing list tucked somewhere as I was the one in charge of sending them regularly. ( along with all the pesky lists of RM/SM/MERP/ and related products from ICE usable in RPG )
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2013, 11:07:31 AM »
I'm a little late to the conversation, but I had a list of SW canon materials along with some notes if they are of any use.

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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2013, 07:38:58 PM »
I'm a little late to the conversation, but I had a list of SW canon materials along with some notes if they are of any use.

Thanks Matt, this is a helpful update! These notes could certainly be integrated in with the listing with my blessing.
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2013, 07:41:11 PM »

Phillip and Terry,

Can you copy the list somewhere (this thread or another) and pin the current one as the first post? (Or if you've done this, point me pls.)
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2013, 11:28:35 PM »
When I get the time & energy tonight, I'll be making an updated, revised list so will add it here and ask one of the forum wizards about keeping a revised list in the first post. I know I've been AWOL, but life, as usual, had intervened....
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2013, 12:31:54 PM »
When I get the time & energy tonight, I'll be making an updated, revised list so will add it here and ask one of the forum wizards about keeping a revised list in the first post. I know I've been AWOL, but life, as usual, had intervened....

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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2013, 03:43:23 PM »
Still partway through the list (I got distracted by a programme on the telly about Yagan).
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2014, 07:27:36 AM »
Hey there, thank you for this great list. I am delving deeper into the world setting and these files definitely help me get my bearings.
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #48 on: February 17, 2015, 04:38:11 AM »
How is the work on the list progressing? Anything new about it?

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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2015, 11:08:57 AM »
Hi everyone,

[Sorry for my English, I am no native  :'(]

I came looking for such a list and I find this! Awesome!
I am a RM player/user for more than 20 years, mostly with the Middle-Earth materials. It just happened that I already read all the old ICE modules, and I was considering moving into a new campaign setting... that is, SW –which BTW I knew but never actually used; in Spain just one book was published. Given that the SW materials are growing in number, I am completely lost, with no guide to distinguish among "First books", "Guide books", "Completely necessary books", etc. I have searched in the forum but not found what I want. Somebody (i.e. Terry or whoever) please could at least give me some hints about the following questions?

1) Is there some plans of reprinting the out-of-print items? Of course I will buy the PDFs in RPGNow, but it is not the same... I would find nice if RPGNow gives us the possibility of get every book printed  ::)

2) I plan to buy everything (sadly the EUR - USD rate is changing  :'(), but it should be made in the proper order, i.e. in the order I should read the books. I assume it is not the chronological order (Vog Mur, Tanara, etc.) but the internal order (First Age, Second Age...). Or maybe buying first the general books (Atlas? Emer?) would be more appropriate? Are those books divided according to geography? Periods? I think the SW Guide gives no clues for these questions.

3) I wonder if one could get ALL the SW Books together, in a set.

Thank you guys, best,

Josué

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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2015, 02:29:10 PM »
I would say that you first need a Master Atlas - either SWMA3 or SWMA4. There are differences; I know some people prefer 3. Powers of Light and Darkness is then a useful GM addition. The Player Guide provides background for players.

Next, you should decide on an adventuring locale. The primary areas are Jaiman and Emer. Currently, there is more published for Jaiman, as three Emer books are being overhauled.

For Jaiman, the two current main area books are Cloudlords of Tanara and Xa-ar and Northern Saralis. Quellbourne is a popular, old non-TKA supplement in Jaiman, although it's only available as a PDF. Guild Companions 2 and 3 each have an adventure set in Xa-ar. Wulris is another area that is currently in progress in Jaiman, and Tales from the Green Gryphon Inn will soon(ish) be out, and is also on the continent (I think).

For Emer, there currently is really only Emer III and an adventure in Guild Adventurer 1. Emer I and II are being overhauled, as is Eidolon, and the adventure in Guild Adventurer 1 is set in the locale of Emer II.

The Loremaster Legacy, despite being a fiction work, also provides quite a lot of background detail.
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2015, 02:57:55 PM »
Dear Lord, this can't be more useful! Thank you very much.
I looked in RPGNow but it seems that the Master Atlas are only available in PDF. Is that true? Really? If they are so important - and helpful - I think a print version is needed.
A list of published works is great, but such a bibliographical guide is more important for the non-specialists. Maybe a chronological guide does already exist?
Thanks a lot,

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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2015, 03:08:24 PM »
JJJ,
 Welcome the ICE Forums and do not worry about your English it is fine. ;D


 I would like to provide you with some basic info on ICE republishing for the old products. The old products have to be recovered or scanned from either paper book or old files and both may have serious issues with formatting and grammar. So it can take a lot of work to get the product to a point where it is available for print. At times there is also a problem of finding the author and receiving his or her permission to reprint the product. And unfortunately the last point is that is some cases the product just does not make monetary sense to do all of the above.
 I can say that ICE appreciates your enthusiasm for Shadow World and they will work to try and get all of the older material into e-form and paper format that they can.
 I hope that helps in some small way.
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2015, 04:22:55 PM »
Hi Mark,

Thanks, it helps. Of course I understand the problems it brings, I meant no offense. I just wrote "what we the fans want", not "what is viable". Sorry if I expressed otherwise.
In the case of the Master Atlas, the are ready-to-print versions, Terry is always there, working in new material, and I guess the books sold very well (at least every fan would buy them). I hope I can get one of the print versions in the near future; thank you very much.

Off topic: I came from the MERP world. Of course, everyone knows that ICE discontinued the line in 2000, so apart from the fans work, no official material can be published - at least with the RM system, The One Ring is doing well. But in the case of Shadow World, which attracts me so much is that the line is pretty alive, with Terry via Facebook giving good news every month or so, and working hard on new books, new adventures, etc. Good work guys!

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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2015, 04:48:13 PM »
Terry expects to complete the manuscript of the updated Eidolon next, although Tales from the Gryphon Inn should be next out.

We are deliberately not putting either 3rd or 4th Edition back into print as the intent is to release a system-independent GM Guide and then system-specific Handbooks.

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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2015, 05:16:54 PM »
Thanks Nicholas. I guess it is a good idea the way you describes it - yet it means that I should start with other books, not the ShWMA. In any case... shut up and take my money!
Best,

Josué

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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2015, 06:58:26 PM »
Thanks Nicholas. I guess it is a good idea the way you describes it - yet it means that I should start with other books, not the ShWMA. In any case... shut up and take my money!
Best,

Josué

I would suggest that a Master Atlas would still be important - it could be quite some time before the replacements to it are released, as there are at least seven in progress Shadow World books that I know of that could well be released prior to them.
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2015, 10:36:34 AM »
You might be able to find old copies of Master Atlas 3rd & 4th edition on Ebay or Amazon, though shipping might be an issue.
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2015, 10:44:08 AM »
Oh and glad to hear of another new excited SW fan!

Just for general information, Emer I and II and Haalkitaine (centered on the capital of Rhakhaan in Jaiman) have all been converted from old PageMaker files to InDesign and laid out again. All three have already had major additions and edits done to them, so they are underway. Eidolon (set in NE Emer, but very close to Jaiman), as Nicholas mentioned, is nearly complete. There is also a revision of Norek, a city-state in Jaiman, underway.

There is a Jaiman sourcebook, published way back at the beginning of Shadow World, that is a bit of a conundrum. It should be an overview of the continent, but ended up being half adventures with lots of elaborate 'dungeons' (for lack of a better word). Really, it should be completely overhauled and include the tons of new information from the later regional modules.

So, lots going on.
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Re: Query: a Shadow World Checklist
« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2015, 03:30:27 PM »
Thanks for the info, Terry!
Whenever I had difficulties following the ShW line, I write a post  asking for the fans' help ;)