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Systems & Settings => Spacemaster => Topic started by: IronSoul_AMS on December 14, 2014, 06:10:28 PM
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Is there any word or insight as to if they the are going to do a Space Master playtest? From what I have read they are rebuilding space master which I am losing my mind over (sci fi being my favorite setting) Didn't know if there was a time frame that iron crown was on.
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I head that they are going to get RMU out first and then work on SMU. No time frame has been given but I also think that they are going to be working on some support stuff for RMU before SMU.
But I could be wrong and I have no special knowledge on the subject.
MDC
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Will it be the privateers universe/setting?
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From what I have seen is that it may be the same universe as SM2 as Terry K Amthor has been asking questions about that universe setting. But again a lot of things can happen before a product is published.
But if there is enough interest I think that the Privateers Universe setting could have a set of books also.
MDC
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They haven't spoken to me about it, but as Mark said, it's probably not time for that yet.
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This brings another question. I was reading the privateers book and between each chapter is slice of a story about a tag tag team trying to destroy the Jeoren Munitions depot though what happened in the end it seemed as though there was some twist with a dragoon and someone else? Did the tularian die?Did the tortured human die...was it a set up just would like some insight
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From what I have seen is that it may be the same universe as SM2 as Terry K Amthor has been asking questions about that universe setting. But again a lot of things can happen before a product is published.
Very cool, I hope it goes this route as I really refer this setting to the Privateers setting. (I am just not that into anthropomorphic animals... so no Other Suns for this guy. :o )
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I know that R. Defendi had some fiction that he talked about releasing in the past (in book form, with some editing) about the group but I do not know anymore about it than that.
MDC
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I liked the direction they took the anthropomorphic animals from the Honorable Tulgar, peaceful Kagoths, the Conquering Talar, the emotionless raptors, the Give mind xanototians, and lastly while not in the privateers setting the nihilist, superior Tezcat. I felt that the so well defined races and cultures was amazing. It helped bring out rich role playing and personally love that level of structure. I wish I could write for iron crown enterprises in that respect .
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IMHO maybe you and R Defendi and ICE can work out a deal. I would drop them a PM and see if anything happens from there.
MDC
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Humans are anthropomorphic animals. I really liked the SM:P setting. It combined classic sci-fi elements with an classic authoritarian versus liberty setting.
Even if you throw out the setting, the rule set is excellent.
My own SM:P game took place in our solar system (developed out to Jupiter).
Any setting books or various support material would be awesome. I doubt that is going to happen with five volunteers developing RMU. How can they find time for anything else?
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The book was actually a prequel Clancyiesque military/spy thriller with different characters. It followed one of the flotilla fleets that was on the border during the first moments of the war, the Tulgaran remnants after the night of the long knives, and the DSA analyst who's put in charge of tracking enemy ship movements after the loss of Astrillairon.
As for your question, I'd look at those pieces again. Were you referring to Races and Cultures, however? That was the Guns of Navoronne style story. :)
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From what I have seen is that it may be the same universe as SM2 as Terry K Amthor has been asking questions about that universe setting. But again a lot of things can happen before a product is published.
But if there is enough interest I think that the Privateers Universe setting could have a set of books also.
MDC
The current plan is to do a new edition of the original Barrett/Amthor Imperium setting. Defendi's SpaceMaster is a different universe, and, while compelling, is incompatible. These would have to be done separately.
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I can't wait for SMU and I prefer the 2e Imperium setting. Never cared for the RM:P setting, but didn't hate it. I'd buy a Privateers supplement for SMU though.
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SMU? I laugh every time I see it. Maybe when we are all very, very old men.
Besides, the mechanics of SM:P is so excellent, I have no need for SMU. Irrelevant anyway as I have no faith in it ever being written.
Now updated SM2 Empire material, yes. Terry eventually gets his work done.
Pessimist mood off.
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What I would like to see is a set of books that are generic Spacemaster. Then provide a series of settings books, - i.e. Privateers and Imperium.
RoleMaster is generic. Why cannot Spacemaster be the same? Exploring all possible tech levels, etc. Then, as said, provide settings books that alter these generic rules (guidelines).
rmfr
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Spacemaster should be interchangeable with rolemaster.
Rolemaster should be the core book and Spacemaster a "Companion" book that gives you the professions, skills, talents and equipment for running generic Space games.
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SM:P was as generic as we could make it, since there is no implied setting for SF. We had all the tech levels, components to build ships. I don't think the race rules ever came out but you could build with the RM rules easily enough.
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IIRC, The race rules were published in a Data Net.
MDC
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That's right. They were in the original book ICE commissioned as an expansion to RM, but I couldn't remember how they landed when that book was cut up.
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SM:P is plenty generic. I run a homebrewed setting that is currently limited to Sol system. No animal races, though I have been tempted to use them as genetic slaves/assassins. Highly illegal slaves/assassins I might add. I have resisted temptation so far, but all that pre-made material is so very inviting.
Seeing ICE grow big and strong enough to write setting books would be most welcome and make me very, very happy. Maybe Pete could produce his Eastern Middle Earth stuff under a different name for RM? Terry is obviously taking a re-release of the Empire seriously. Considering how creative Defendi's work in SM:P was, maybe he could be tapped to write something?
Time will tell.
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I would buy an SMU (and RMU for that matter).
I would find it very difficult to find people to run it, but I'd get it for old times sake and a good read.
I just don't think a lot of roleplayers these days have the patience to learn RM.\
All my old RM and SM players are spread over the world, although we sometimes chat about RM and RM with fond memories, but I doubt we'll ever game together again.
I was never that fussed on Privateers, although I did buy most of the books many years ago. I probably wouldn't buy into a re-hash of Privateers.
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I've been running two people new to RM in my RMU playtest but the rest have RM experience. Your average Newbie might be turned off by the complexity but I think most would give it a shot if the opportunity arose.
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For myself, I liked the Privateers setting and I'd like some answers. What happens to androids that log into the datanet? What is behind the Kagoth turning bloodthirsty, or perhaps what wore off that turned them peaceful? Why are there no signals from races beyond known space? What were the ancients up to? Who were the ancients? Those kind of things. I've thought about doing some articles and put some work into a character editor but really I'm awfully busy and not very motivated.
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I have to admit after my RMU Playtest I'll be gun-shy about SMU now. That said, I'd love for Terry to produce an updated system agnostic setting book, with SMU, SM2 & HARP Sci-Fi system specific crunch for the setting if needed (likely for both HARP Sci-Fi & SMU). As long as the new update doesn't have a ton of new rules or crunch heavy elements I could use it with SM2 supplement.
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Spacemaster should be interchangeable with rolemaster.
Rolemaster should be the core book and Spacemaster a "Companion" book that gives you the professions, skills, talents and equipment for running generic Space games.
What he said. :)
IMHO.... RMU is taking a very long time to organise. (rightly so) BUT the matter of making it FULLY generic should have been a prime consideration in it's design. What I do not want to see is a Core system that cannot fully handle the additional complexities of what is simply another genre. I want to be able to easily adapt genre specific "Details" into RMU rather than adding "Rules Changes/Additions". I.e. Piloting, Psionics, Space flight, Science ALL these should be easily slotted into the RMU seamlessly.
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That was discussed quite a bit in the design of RMU, back when I was still involved. I think SMU will go much faster because the system will be all hashed out and it'll be more a matter of filling in the blanks.
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From what I have seen is that it may be the same universe as SM2 as Terry K Amthor has been asking questions about that universe setting. But again a lot of things can happen before a product is published.
But if there is enough interest I think that the Privateers Universe setting could have a set of books also.
MDC
The current plan is to do a new edition of the original Barrett/Amthor Imperium setting. Defendi's SpaceMaster is a different universe, and, while compelling, is incompatible. These would have to be done separately.
I would go for this. Too bad about Aliens and Artifacts, though.
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Anyone got any sort of update on activity for this product?