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Title: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Hurin on November 04, 2008, 02:45:01 PM
Hi all,

I'm just wondering if there's a chance of the Darkspace book ever making it into .pdf form. I'd really like to use it for my current campaign (which begins in Shadow World), but I haven't been able to find it anywhere except on Ebay (and it is quite expensive there). I'm wondering whether I should shell out the cash or wait in the hopes it makes it into .pdf format on the ICE store.

Bump if you'd like to see this!

Thanks very much,

--Hurin
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Rasyr-Mjolnir on November 04, 2008, 03:06:16 PM
ICE does not own the full rights to a number of old products. All products from the old ICE that we could make into PDF have already been done (except for 1 Spacemaster module).

So, no ICE will most likely not be placing a PDF of Dark Space on our store.

Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Hurin on November 04, 2008, 04:31:45 PM
Ah darn, that's sad to hear :(
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: dutch206 on November 04, 2008, 05:27:55 PM
That book rocks!  Dark Space was written by Monte Cook, so e-mail Malhavoc Press and ask him about it.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Wōdwulf Seaxaning on November 04, 2008, 06:06:02 PM
One of my favorite supplements for RM & SM. I miss it dearly ...I'd love to see Monte allow it to be republished as a PDF @ the ICE store.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Rasyr-Mjolnir on November 04, 2008, 07:09:19 PM
The only way for it to get republished would be for him to sign a contract with the Guild Companion. They have the exclusive rights to make deals to republish works to which ICE does not own the full rights.

Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: ictus on November 04, 2008, 11:04:39 PM
this was one of those ground breaking books, very different and very useful.

it would make sense to republish it if at all possible.

firstly wouldn't it be great if the original space master was reworked and releasing, so as to give it a wider audiance than it would currently enjoy, and then push to try to make it happen, which in itself would be a hard task.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: dutch206 on November 04, 2008, 11:50:01 PM
No disrepect to Defendi, but I really do miss SM 2.  I feel the new space master kind of threw out the baby with the bath water.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Wōdwulf Seaxaning on November 05, 2008, 11:18:01 AM
The only way for it to get republished would be for him to sign a contract with the Guild Companion. They have the exclusive rights to make deals to republish works to which ICE does not own the full rights.



Cool I understand Rasyr.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Wōdwulf Seaxaning on November 05, 2008, 11:23:16 AM
No disrepect to Defendi, but I really do miss SM 2.  I feel the new space master kind of threw out the baby with the bath water.

Like I've posted elsewhere I agree with both Ictus & Dutch.ICE should revamp SM2 , much like it did with RM2/C. It'd help revive the brand IMO.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Rasyr-Mjolnir on November 05, 2008, 02:44:12 PM
Like I've posted elsewhere I agree with both Ictus & Dutch.ICE should revamp SM2 , much like it did with RM2/C. It'd help revive the brand IMO.

ICE actually responded to these requests before (in the Spacemaster Express thread -- the first couple of pages). Essentially it boils down to not being able to use the SM2 setting AND not having the resources (i.e. manpower, time, etc.) to do such.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Wōdwulf Seaxaning on November 05, 2008, 03:41:31 PM
Booo hisss LOL J/k understandable. Can't say I can't wish for it though =P
It just needs a new setting & slap Ictus n' Defendi into chains .Then have Ictus do the rules revision & Defendi convert the setting from SM:P to SM2/C or create a all new one .Give them just enough food n' water to keep them functioning.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: markc on November 05, 2008, 05:27:32 PM
Booo hisss LOL J/k understandable. Can't say I can't wish for it though =P
It just needs a new setting & slap Ictus n' Defendi into chains .Then have Ictus do the rules revision & Defendi convert the setting from SM:P to SM2/C or create a all new one .Give them just enough food n' water to keep them functioning.

 I think there are some conversion notes from SM2 to SM:P in te vault.

MDC
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: egdcltd on November 06, 2008, 03:59:33 AM
i'd really like to use it for my current campaign (which begins in Shadow World), but I haven't been able to find it anywhere except on Ebay (and it is quite expensive there).

I've seen this on Amazon and Barnes and Noble too. Not that cheap really either, $40+ usually.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Justin on November 06, 2008, 11:01:54 AM
{i'm a stupid-head. erasing my whole comment.}
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: dutch206 on November 06, 2008, 07:00:32 PM
For those who don't have 'dark space', try the following:

Use the "entities from deep space" section of Creatures and Monsters (RMSS) or C & T II.  Think "Rolemaster meets Call of Cthulu".  Lather, rinse and repeat.  It's a gross over-simplifaction, but it gets the job done.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: Taurren on November 07, 2008, 01:05:01 PM
Dark Space is one of my all time favorite supplements, and one of the better books (IMHO) that Monte wrote, simply because of the idea's he threw together.

I found that Monte's "Chaositech" book (Malhavoc Press D&D 3.5) used a few of the same bad guys (Vathlochna  sp?) that were initially found in DS.
Title: Re: Any chance of a Darkspace .pdf?
Post by: egdcltd on January 14, 2009, 03:14:47 AM
This is currently available on ebay UK. Not sure if seller will post outside the UK though: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dark-Space-Rare-Rolemaster-by-Monte-Cook-ICE-OOP_W0QQitemZ120363189095QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Toys_RolePlaying_RL?hash=item120363189095&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318