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Title: RMU race creation: Fair Elves
Post by: Thot on June 25, 2023, 11:22:34 AM
I was just trying to recompute the DP cost for Fair Elves... and maybe I am overlooking something, but all their bonuses, maluses, talents and flaws. seem to add up to a higher number than 50 (79, if I am not mistaken?) Yet,. the bonus DP for them are given as 0, instead of -29. Is that an error on my part, and erratum, or am I misreading the race creation rules?
Title: Re: RMU race creation: Fair Elves
Post by: cdcooley on June 25, 2023, 02:16:48 PM
Yes, some of the classic races in the core do exceed 50. There are no negative DP awards, so those races are overpowered based on the race creation formula. But then again, those races were always overpowered compared to the others, so nothing has really changed except acknowledging that reality.
Title: Re: RMU race creation: Fair Elves
Post by: Amano on June 25, 2023, 03:06:37 PM
I don’t think that’s right, all races should sum correctly. Let’s see…

Efficient sleeper II       10
Immune to disease I   10
Nightvision                 10

Defensive aura II        12
Golden throat              5

Stats +4                    16
Magic resistance.       -18
Physical resistance.     12

Vigorous.                    5
Slow healer.              -10
Fragile                      -3

Stride.                       0.5

Total 49.5

Seems okay to me, they even have a half point spare.

Ps. It helps to show your work with these kinds of questions.
Title: Re: RMU race creation: Fair Elves
Post by: jdale on June 25, 2023, 04:14:27 PM
All the races should add up correctly. 0.5 is just a rounding issue. None of the races should be off by more than that.
Title: Re: RMU race creation: Fair Elves
Post by: Thot on June 25, 2023, 04:18:44 PM
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Stats +4                    16

There's an inconsistency there between the fair elves in the text and in the races table (which is the whole reason why I started to recomepute this). The text gives them +0 Agility, the table sais +1.

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Total 49.5

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Seems okay to me, they even have a half point spare.

Ah, I found my error. Thank you! My spreadsheet just ignored some of the negatives.
Title: Re: RMU race creation: Fair Elves
Post by: Thot on June 25, 2023, 04:20:41 PM
All the races should add up correctly. 0.5 is just a rounding issue. None of the races should be off by more than that.

Thanks for the confirmation!
Title: Re: RMU race creation: Fair Elves
Post by: jdale on June 25, 2023, 07:23:11 PM
>There's an inconsistency there between the fair elves in the text and in the races table (which is the whole reason why I started to recomepute this). The text gives them +0 Agility, the table sais +1.

I see +0 Agility on Table 2-2a and also in the entry on page 25. If you're seeing a different bonus somewhere, check that you have the up-to-date version of Core (should say Modified Version: March 12, 2023 4:41 PM on the bottom of the credits page, page 2), and if so let me know where it is.
Title: Re: RMU race creation: Fair Elves
Post by: Thot on June 28, 2023, 09:18:10 AM
[...] check that you have the up-to-date version of Core (should say Modified Version: March 12, 2023 4:41 PM on the bottom of the credits page, page 2)
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Apparently I had the older version. Thanks!