RMU Creature Law typos and issues thread

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wibobm

Zombie (I) description in pdf says "10' Radius nausea" on bottom right of p. 326.  Based on  talent/flaws it should be 15'.  "Aura, hindering [Nausea, Fear, 30'R] (30 DP); Decrease radius III [-15'R] (-30 DP);"

Jinor

Page 20 says:

For modes of locomotion the creature is not adapted for, or there is no movement listed, assume the creature operates as if the Fifth Tier Awkward movement talent is applicable: and apply an 80% movement penalty. Example: a human has only its bipedal movement listed; so if he goes climbing or swimming, his movement rate is decreased by 80% and he is limited to Run maximum pace. Also apply -20 to his standard movement maneuver total, unless he has developed movement: swimming skill.

However on page 43:

However, when a certain type of movement is not listed, such as swimming type movement, or climbing type movement, it will be treated as awkward movement. Normally this is handled as tier IV (75% reduction) for most types, derived from the primary, first listed, movement. Deviations from this will be listed in most cases.

Plus if the Fifth Tier Awkward is applicable should not the penalty be 90 %, maneuver -25 and max pace walk?
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jdale

For humans, climbing and swimming is 1/4 BMR (i.e., 75% reduction), as specified in Core. So Tier IV would be correct and the other should be corrected to match.
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npills

Page 21, under the Inconsiderate description:
"Such creatures do not care for the suffering of others and gladly tread down anything in their path"
`do not care for` implies they don't like others suffering. Should rephrase as:
"Such creatures are unconcerned by the suffering of others and gladly tread down anything in their path"

npills

page 22, under Movement. "For modes of locomotion the creature is not adapted for, or there is no movement listed, assume the creature operates as if the Fifth Tier Awkward movement talent is applicable: and apply an 80% movement penalty."

 the ":" and would read better reversed, simplified to "Awkward (V)" (assuming we still use the roman numeral nomenclature) and referred to as a flaw (not a talent)
VVVVV

"For modes of locomotion the creature is not adapted for, or there is no movement listed, apply an 80% movement penalty as the creature had the Awkward (V) movement flaw. "

assur

Three choices I find very questionable:

 - writing creatures description and stats in two different places, there are more than 20 pages in certain categories in between the two.
 - using a single line with a smaller font for stats, I presume rolemaster users age is going up and not down since 1982.
 - turning the stats sheet 90 degree for the reason to use only 1 line I presume, the wrost thing in all, I have to continually rotate the pdf and with book will be worse.

All these choices make using Creature Law more cumbersome than it could be and should have been in my opinion.

The last thing is not inherently evil, as above, but I don't appreciate; to not include archetipes progression in the first creature law limit a the most simple modifications to creatures, level progression until the next creature law (hopefully I can use playtesting creature law).

npills

page 147, under the Fire Elemental, the photo says "Reuse from HARP Bestiary" <-- don't think this is meant to be in the final print!

npills

page 323, Mindless undead: "When they espy Movement or life, they press forward"   <-- I assume 'espy' should by 'spy'

rdanhenry

Rolemaster: When you absolutely, positively need to have a chance of tripping over an imaginary dead turtle.

Crivens

Table T-3.1c - Size Examples
Big (B (6) --> Big (B (6))
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Osaran

Hi guys,
I'm non able to find the Flaw "disturbing voice" ,I searched in many ways.

Crivens

Table T-3.1c - Size Examples
same with Huge
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Crivens

Quote from: Osaran on May 10, 2025, 03:27:30 AMHi guys,
I'm non able to find the Flaw "disturbing voice" ,I searched in many ways.
Because it is already in Core Law, I suppose only new talents are described.
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Micael

In the animal table bat is twice there and rat forgotten.

Crivens

In 5.4. Dinosaurs. I don't agree with Loremaster definition: "Actually, they may serve as the distant ancestors of both mammals and birds".

Common ancestors between dinosaurs and mammals were amniotes. They separated (-320 M years) between Synapsides (ancestors of mammals including therapsides for example) and Sauropsides (giving Reptilia, then Diapsides which includes dinosaurs and birds...amongst other).

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nash

T-3.1d (page 23) indicates a DB penalty for smaller creatures attacking a larger creature. 

Core Law page 165 (in the example irritatingly) says:
QuoteThe target is larger than the attacker, so there is no DB modifier.

These obviously contradict.

Crivens

Ah yes, Pterosaurs are not dinosaurs (commun ancestor in Ornithodira clade around -247 My) but from a RPG perspective it is easier to regroup them with dinosaurs.
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Crivens

p104 Primate, gorilla, --> Primate, gorilla
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Crivens

p.214 the Title "Fire Drakes" is missing
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