Project BASil: Mentalism Spells

[terefang]

This list needs some work, but I put it together quickly for an NPC the group was going to encounter. It needs some additional mechanics and clarifications--but then again, I'm still revamping BASiL and the Mentalism lists!

nice list, i would rename it Siphon and expand it to all Attributes as well as Corruption, Fate, Luck etc etc.

[Hurin]

Could be a fun list for a Big Bad Evil Guy to have when the party confront him in his lair, if he had a prisoner (or one of the party members) immobilized on an altar in front of him.

[B Hanson]

That's close to what I had--the bad guy was grabbing civilians and draining them of attributes. I use "stats as skills" so the bump to the temp stat does have game play benefit. Still playing around with the stress critical impact on that though.

[B Hanson]

Time to finish up BASiL Mentalism. Attached is "Projection" (version 3) which is a merge of Sense Projection and Self Projection that I posted earlier in this thread. There was some redundancy and empty slots and I thought it worked better combined. Next up are Subterfuge lists: Misdirecting Ways and Self Glamour.

[Hurin]

This is neat! Thanks!

[cdcooley]

It looks like you attached the previously published Sense Projection not a new version.  I downloaded an identical version back in September.

[B Hanson]

Your correct, wrong file. Attached.

[cdcooley]

I like the combined and less redundant version. A definite improvement.

[B Hanson]

Self Glamour. This needs a bit more work but I have a player that has used this so I have some good feedback to fine tune it.

[B Hanson]

Misdirecting Ways.

[B Hanson]

Concealing Mind

[B Hanson]

Mentalism spells will start going up!

[TigerShaman]

In particular, I am thinking of the first spell, 'Non Fatigue', on the Self Control list. Making the caster immune to fatigue penalties for 1 min/level is exceptionally powerful for a caster in RMU, since fatigue penalties are the main limitation on the speed of prepping spells. If one is immune to fatigue, one can cast spells with much less prep.

We're removing that, so that particular aspect will be moot. I only gave the lists a quick look, there might be other issues.

One thing that did jump out at me was that durations of 1 min/lvl are good for combat spells (e.g. those size modifiers) but seem low when using change self type spells for disguise, infiltration, and other non-combat oriented purposes.

When you say you are removing this, can you clarify exactly what that means?

[jdale]

In particular, I am thinking of the first spell, 'Non Fatigue', on the Self Control list. Making the caster immune to fatigue penalties for 1 min/level is exceptionally powerful for a caster in RMU, since fatigue penalties are the main limitation on the speed of prepping spells. If one is immune to fatigue, one can cast spells with much less prep.

We're removing that, so that particular aspect will be moot. I only gave the lists a quick look, there might be other issues.

One thing that did jump out at me was that durations of 1 min/lvl are good for combat spells (e.g. those size modifiers) but seem low when using change self type spells for disguise, infiltration, and other non-combat oriented purposes.

When you say you are removing this, can you clarify exactly what that means?

It's a post from 2017, I had to go back to remember the context. But: in a beta version of RMU, spell preparation or overcasting or something required fatigue rolls for concentration. I don't remember exactly. And then we removed that from the rules and simplified prep, so the concern about fatigue's relevance to casting became irrelevant by the time RMU was published.

[TigerShaman]

In particular, I am thinking of the first spell, 'Non Fatigue', on the Self Control list. Making the caster immune to fatigue penalties for 1 min/level is exceptionally powerful for a caster in RMU, since fatigue penalties are the main limitation on the speed of prepping spells. If one is immune to fatigue, one can cast spells with much less prep.

We're removing that, so that particular aspect will be moot. I only gave the lists a quick look, there might be other issues.

One thing that did jump out at me was that durations of 1 min/lvl are good for combat spells (e.g. those size modifiers) but seem low when using change self type spells for disguise, infiltration, and other non-combat oriented purposes.

When you say you are removing this, can you clarify exactly what that means?

It's a post from 2017, I had to go back to remember the context. But: in a beta version of RMU, spell preparation or overcasting or something required fatigue rolls for concentration. I don't remember exactly. And then we removed that from the rules and simplified prep, so the concern about fatigue's relevance to casting became irrelevant by the time RMU was published.

Ok, so the physical hardback I have is up to date, even though I bought it when it first came out.  That is what I was trying to confirm.   Thank you.

[jdale]

Ok, so the physical hardback I have is up to date, even though I bought it when it first came out.  That is what I was trying to confirm.   Thank you.

We're trying not to change rules that have been published. So far, the closest we've gotten has been optional rules offered in subsequent books.

[TigerShaman]

And I really appreciate that you are making that effort.  It's incredibly frustrating to have physical books that go obsolete faster than video game strategy guides.  Thank you for taking that into account for those of us that buy hardbacks.

[B Hanson]

Mentalism: Clairvoyance: Delving

[B Hanson]

The last of the Clairvoyance lists. "Mind Delving".

On to "Glamours" lists!