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Introduction podcasts to shadow world modules are coming...
Micael:
Hey everyone! To support our newer gamemasters who might not be familiar with every module published by ICE over the years, I'm launching a short introduction podcast series for each module on the official ICE discord servers. This way, everyone can decide if a particular module suits their needs, starting from the earliest releases. Some of these modules are no longer available directly and can only be found second-hand on platforms like eBay. Please note that the links I provide are for cover images only—not for purchasing—since there might be cheaper options elsewhere. Here's a pilot episode introducing a module from Shadow World as a podcast. Let me know if there's anything specific you'd like an introduction for, otherwise, I'll continue posting them one by one over the coming months. Spoiler warning for players- please don´t hear these potcast´s, as secrets are lurking there..
Have fun
Micael
https://discord.com/channels/699316643716923483/705098090251550871/1287513464444817530
Micael:
Updated with The world of fog mur
Micael:
Hey to all,
for those who are not active on the ICE discord server, I will post a complete list of all shadowworld potcasts available:
Only for DMs:
1. The orgillion horror https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pJJZtdHCBx9o68OeYWTq7FBks1YAUfpI/view?usp=drive_link
2. Norek https://www.ebay.at/itm/266179884543 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ycmozpklLHt8OeIUE7_RBYSf6bn30o_t/view?usp=drive_link
3. The Iron wind in progress
4. Fog Mur https://www.drivethrurpg.com/de/product/88211/the-world-of-vog-mur https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ikf21B9VCpBbSiLyFf5HlDGr8qjoviuG/view?usp=drive_link
5. Cyclop Vale and other tales https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8602769-cyclops-vale-and-other-tales
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19HTIEtbQADoHyziI3fUuc3r0Qa7nRupC/view?usp=drive_link
6. Sky giants of the brass stair https://www.ebay.com/itm/126348520499
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QSEV92HyCad84dnWrE7DR6R1yNkk8RsR/view?usp=drive_link
7. The Priest-King of Shade (module by Brian D. Hanson, proofread by Matt Hanson) : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cvhDli2VSMSkNyRGeB5d-_0Xx-fzTgGu/view?usp=drive_link
8. Emer atlas box + addendum: https://store.eplanetx.net/iceswemermasteratlasaddendum.html#:~:text=I.C.E.%20Shadow%20World%20Emer%20&%20Master https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pU9HFdjCxEO4gd1lO7WLT-0GvE-Hgfzx/view?usp=drive_link
For players & DMs:
1. Tales from the green gryphon inn https://www.drivethrurpg.com/de/product/146797/shadow-world-tales-from-the-green-gryphon-inn https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FGTStMZqPwjQ9iZY7dHPaBCftQhz6shg/view?usp=drive_link
2. Shadowworld Players Guide https://www.drivethrurpg.com/de/product/83779/shadow-world-player-guide-the-world
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sVC7AstYdXef6-V2WCvfC551umLID-uG/view?usp=drive_link
3. Loremasters Legacy https://www.drivethrufiction.com/product/117364/The-Loremaster-Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SrWVv8H3PdCww6iRRj4K6Ld4M_oWFFCY/view?usp=drive_link
4. Duranaki Chronicles https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XXQMrvsyXlshyOSAboGbMM8_UnljdLdC/view?usp=drive_link
5. Epic Tales of Gryphonburgh https://drive.google.com/file/d/16Va8OMYIXh9soQ-h45CjDXtBuJrAQuJd/view?usp=drive_link
As many of you know, I recently shared a long, epic story from my home campaign under https://discord.com/channels/699316643716923483/705098090251550871/1270406869101314179. While some parts are hinted at in the module, much of it is new, particularly the stories that evolved from the players' backgrounds, which adds an epic dimension to the overall tale.
Have fun
Micael
MisterK:
I don't know if you talked about Terry's canon and non-canon opinion in your introduction, but I really think you should, if only because it provides an explanation for some glaring inconsistencies between Terry's "approved list" and those that were definitely written without his supervision (and vision for Shadow World) - The Shade of the Sinking Plain being a prime example if the latter, but Sky Giants, among others, can be included in that list. I mean, Sky Giants can be used as inspiration material, but it only pays lip service to the Shadow World canon, and Terry barely mentions its existence in his products (during the timeline, in the dates about the expansion of Rhakhaan into Wuliris).
I also think that you should refrain from including Duranaki Chronicles since, as far as I know, it was published without Terry's approval (and could be argued to constitute a copyright breach). Which is sad in a way, because the parts that take place on Kulthea are more or less faithful to canon [I would advise people who are interested in using it as inspiration to stick to the first volume and ignore the second - the author was obviously interested in Shadow World but not in Space Master's Imperium, and the second is more than half space opera :p]
I find it odd that you don't include a single book from Terry's fourth edition work - SWMA4, Powers of Light and Darkness, Emer1-3, Xa-ar, and the revised Haalkitaine, Eidolon and Jaiman books - except Tales of the Green Gryphon. I would have started with the books that provide the most context. I mean, Vog Mur is great (and certainly a fond memory), but it does not provide much of a framework for Shadow World, since it was written before the World of Loremasters became Shadow World (Tanara and Iron Wind were in the same situation - all three are among the best SW products in my opinion, but the adaptation work required is not insignificant if you want to use those setting in the 'current time' of the official timeline).
Micael:
--- Quote from: MisterK on October 06, 2024, 11:47:37 AM ---I don't know if you talked about Terry's canon and non-canon opinion in your introduction, but I really think you should, if only because it provides an explanation for some glaring inconsistencies between Terry's "approved list" and those that were definitely written without his supervision (and vision for Shadow World) - The Shade of the Sinking Plain being a prime example if the latter, but Sky Giants, among others, can be included in that list. I mean, Sky Giants can be used as inspiration material, but it only pays lip service to the Shadow World canon, and Terry barely mentions its existence in his products (during the timeline, in the dates about the expansion of Rhakhaan into Wuliris).
I also think that you should refrain from including Duranaki Chronicles since, as far as I know, it was published without Terry's approval (and could be argued to constitute a copyright breach). Which is sad in a way, because the parts that take place on Kulthea are more or less faithful to canon [I would advise people who are interested in using it as inspiration to stick to the first volume and ignore the second - the author was obviously interested in Shadow World but not in Space Master's Imperium, and the second is more than half space opera :p]
I find it odd that you don't include a single book from Terry's fourth edition work - SWMA4, Powers of Light and Darkness, Emer1-3, Xa-ar, and the revised Haalkitaine, Eidolon and Jaiman books - except Tales of the Green Gryphon. I would have started with the books that provide the most context. I mean, Vog Mur is great (and certainly a fond memory), but it does not provide much of a framework for Shadow World, since it was written before the World of Loremasters became Shadow World (Tanara and Iron Wind were in the same situation - all three are among the best SW products in my opinion, but the adaptation work required is not insignificant if you want to use those setting in the 'current time' of the official timeline).
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Hi Mister K,
Thanks for your comments! At the moment, I’m not interested in engaging in canon discussions or removing anything from the Shadow World list because of it. I’m familiar with all of it (having read the entire Shadow World forum and owning all Shadow World products) and I have a deep appreciation for Terry’s work—much more than the products not created by him. I’ll be getting to the newer works in a few weeks, as I couldn’t produce all the modules/rulebooks as podcasts at once.
I started with the older material because most of the newer products are already widely known, and that’s why I focused on the past rather than the present. All of these podcasts are fan material (not official ICE content). In my opinion, the Duranaki Chronicles is also more of a fan project than anything else (costing about 1 Euro, which barely covers Amazon's fee), just like my Epic Tales of Gryphonburgh or The Priest-King of Shade. RMU, especially, isn’t considered Shadow World canon with all the new races.
Personally, I believe we’re entering a new era since Terry's passing, and it’s time to find someone who can consolidate and carry the canon forward. Right now, there’s no one in that role, which makes this a great time to reflect on the old days. Even though some products are no longer considered canon, most of the older Shadow World materials can still be used in your campaigns with some minor adjustments—like placing the Sky Giants in the past before the Rhakhaan invasion, or in a parallel world of Wuliris.
But don’t worry, the gems of Shadow World are still to come—the Player's Guide, for example, and the Emer atlas addendum are already canon. And remember, a 10-minute podcast can only cover so much from these larger works. I’m considering breaking down the books and using a “Part 1,2...” format for future episodes. I’ve already experimented with that for Tales from the Green Gryphon Inn.
Have fun!
Micael
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