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HARP version differences
NicholasHMCaldwell:
The earliest HARP rulebook had 160 pages; it was replaced by a 192-page version within a handful of months. The current version of HARP is 203 pages and has ICE and GCP logos on the front.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
Jakob:
Hi,I'll make this post my introduction to this Forum - I've been a lontime gamer (more than 30 years now) and played a lot of MERP back in the day (which was our main game next to Stormbringer, Call of Cthulhu and two German rpgs that most people here wouldn't know). I had kind of left MERP behing many years ago, mainly because I felt that the system did a very bad job emulating Tolkien's world (even though the sourcebooks and modules were often great!).
Anyway, recently I felt a wave of nostalgia for my "old" rpg systems, including BRP and MERP - leaving aside the queston how middle-earthly MERP was, it was just fun! So I've been eyeing HARP for a while, since it looks in many ways like a slightly modernized MERP rules-wise (which also gets rid of the spell lists, an element of RM I never really cared for).
My question: I ended up finding a free pdf of HARP lite on the internet a while ago, about 100 pages published in 2004. Is this still a valid document to try out and get a feel for how HARP plays? Or are the changes from that version just too big?
And as an aside: does:
--- Quote ---•Flat 50 Development Points is the default for calculating Development Points
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mean that in the current Version of HARP, everyone simply gets 50 DP flat per level? Because deriving DP from the characteristics, as it is in HARP Lite, didn't seem to make a lot of sense to me in terms of game balance (if you have higher characteristics, you get more DP, which you can even use to buy more characteristics Points to get even more DP next level!).
I'll probably be buying the current HARP and HARP Folkways (the Supplement that really re-kindled my interest in ICE products) anyway, but still, can't hurt to ask some questions in advance.
Thanks and see you!
NicholasHMCaldwell:
Everyone gets 50 DPs per level (and 100 DPs at 1st level). The DP spiral of using stats to generate DPs to buy higher stats to generate more DPs was one of the problems fixed by the new enhanced HARP.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
Haukea:
I'm getting back in to HARP here. Going to get the 2nd Edition PDF, and have a bunch of the "dead tree" first edition supplements (Martial Law, Monsters, College of Magics, Loot, The Codex; gotta love farmers markets). Are they all relatively compatible with 2nd edition, especially the ones not mentioned here? (Monsters, Loot, Codex)
NicholasHMCaldwell:
--- Quote from: Haukea on July 03, 2018, 04:50:13 PM ---I'm getting back in to HARP here. Going to get the 2nd Edition PDF, and have a bunch of the "dead tree" first edition supplements (Martial Law, Monsters, College of Magics, Loot, The Codex; gotta love farmers markets). Are they all relatively compatible with 2nd edition, especially the ones not mentioned here? (Monsters, Loot, Codex)
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Monsters will be significantly out of line but you can use it as long as you don't look too closely about where some of the numbers have come from. Loot is least changed. Codex is rather unbalanced in terms of some professions and spells.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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