Topic: The power of the "00"

[markc]

  Not letting the players know the crit is one reason why I read the crits to myself, generally. If I do read the stuff it is generally just the non-dead in X rounds stuff to them. 
MDC

[yammahoper]

providence13, for me the problem, well, it's NOT a problem, but some of my friends/players have been gaming with RM since the mid 80's.  The damage results of many crits are well known.  I often change the color of the crits, which has real impact on the game, but not the damage. 

[Temujin]

Good point Temujin, but in RM spells aren't forgotten, as in lesser systems. This, to me, kinda implies what it says..  not that I'm thrilled with it.
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So to say "known and usable"... that is pretty clear..

The problem, imho, is that you are misinterpreting what "known" implies in this context.  The wording is "known and usable" not "learned and usable".  Nowhere does it say that it gives free ranks, as opposed to the 00 on Lore check, which is fairly explicit on that.  As I said, I think it was written with Attunement and Read Runes in mind, not power perception.  For items like Rune Papers, Daily items, charged items, etc.  A character might have lots of ranks in spell lore and therefore know about every spell in the book, that does in no way entitle him to cast any spell in the book.  Same here.  And if you still have doubt, look at the normal and absolute success, and you'll see the same wording: "The spell (if any), is known and usable."  Do you think every Power Awareness success should grant a free spell rank to the character?

[providence13]

Do you think every Power Awareness success should grant a free spell rank to the character?


We can also note that all successful entries of the maneuver has the same text, if a simple 111 is enough to reach the effect then it can't be something as good as "you learn a spell for free"


You guys are absolutely right!
Thanks for the correction.

The Mage has been exposed to a new List, Unseen Ways, which he may learn by spending DP. Either natural ability or a moment of brilliance saved him months of study time.

You guys are great!

[markc]

Did you have the player roll again even though he rolled a 00?


 I often do to see just how high they roll. If they roll very high I would have no problem giving them a rank in a spell list if they rolled 300+.


 Anyway its you game call them how you see them. Just keep the players informed and up to date.


MCD 

[providence13]

Yeah, it wasn't that high.. but that's one I'll have to use.

I dug around in RoCo II last night and the wording for Runes skill fits this chart pretty good.
The parts about reading/using Runes..