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Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« on: January 19, 2010, 01:39:14 PM »
Has anybody tried to convert Warhammer Fantasy RPG to Rolemaster2/Classic or Express ? If so, how did you work it ?
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2010, 01:52:20 PM »
  IMO it should be easy as WFRP is/was a D10 system. If you are looking at the newer system that came out recently then it is much harder IMO as they use those funky dice.
 I have used the old modules in a RMSS game without any problems by just winging the numbers for the creatures. In general I really like the old modules for feel and mood as they are very dark and gritty.

 The toughest part in the conversion IMO is the magic system as they do not have a lot of spells. I do not have a good opinion on how to convert the spell system over to RM and I might just use the RM spell system or create a special set of spell lists to use with the conversion.

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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 02:00:54 PM »
I was thinking of just using the RMC or RMEx (plus EA ) spell system & lists if I convert over. Plus I'd use a few rules on taint & insanity used in WHFRP 2nd ed. I won't touch 3rd ed, with a ten foot pole. I'll just convert the setting from 1st & 2nd editions plus  a few setting specific rules & creatures to RMC/Ex. I've given up creating my own fantasy setting for RMC/Ex so converting one I love will be easier.  Might run a game set in Mordheim as a fun mini campaign. I just need to order a PDF to get the gun powder rules/charts.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 02:27:13 PM »
I was thinking of just using the RMC or RMEx (plus EA ) spell system & lists if I convert over. Plus I'd use a few rules on taint & insanity used in WHFRP 2nd ed. I won't touch 3rd ed, with a ten foot pole. I'll just convert the setting from 1st & 2nd editions plus  a few setting specific rules & creatures to RMC/Ex. I've given up creating my own fantasy setting for RMC/Ex so converting one I love will be easier.  Might run a game set in Mordheim as a fun mini campaign. I just need to order a PDF to get the gun powder rules/charts.

Since it is RMX or RMC
 The RM2 Books At Rapiers Point and Pirates both have fire arm rules inside IIRC or you can use 10 Million Ways to Die [if you like condensed tables].

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I do not know if I have done it before but I think I looked in both the aRP and P books for firearm info for you. If not I can do so again if you would like.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2010, 10:30:12 AM »
 You did for aRP which I plan to get once I can get someone to buy it for me or get a pre-payed debit card so I can do it myself. No credit card so it's hard to order PDFs if it must be D/Led within 24 hours, unlike Paizo (I think). But I don't know about the Pirates book. So 10 Million Ways to die has condensed tables , similar to RMX or Cyberspace ?
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 11:21:02 AM »
You could always use Paypal -- They even have a plugin that allows you to create one-shot credit cards (or single site cards) to use online.  ;D

(and, yes, I have used that plugin, and it works quite well).


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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 04:34:42 PM »
You did for aRP which I plan to get once I can get someone to buy it for me or get a pre-payed debit card so I can do it myself. No credit card so it's hard to order PDFs if it must be D/Led within 24 hours, unlike Paizo (I think). But I don't know about the Pirates book. So 10 Million Ways to die has condensed tables , similar to RMX or Cyberspace ?

 I checked Pirates and they do convert black powder weapons using Arms Law Tables.
 I am going from memory as I do not own or have access to a copy of 10MWtD here but yes there is a 1H edged table that every 1H edged weapon uses.
 Of the two books I think that Pirates may be the way to go if you have WH stuff as IMO you may not need as much of the history stuff from aRP.

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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 12:25:14 PM »
Is the pirates book still available ? I'll check the ICE store & some online sellers for it & see if I can afford it.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 02:31:43 PM »
Is the pirates book still available ? I'll check the ICE store & some online sellers for it & see if I can afford it.
I think the PDF is.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2010, 04:00:55 PM »
I didn't see it.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 07:12:44 PM »
 Here is the link to the old RM2 Stuff they do have quite a few books and At Rapier's Point is one of them. I was wrong about the Pirates book though.

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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2010, 02:01:50 PM »
I know about the At Rapier's Point PDF . I forgot to ask in my e-mail , but is the Pirate book for RM2 or RMSS or RMFRP ? Just curious.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2010, 07:08:34 PM »
 Both atRP and P are for RM2. I also did a quick search for P on Amazon and only saw listings for copies from other vender's not from the big A itself.

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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2010, 02:31:48 PM »
Thanx for the info Marc.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2010, 02:51:13 PM »
Trying to decide on if I should include a career package like (training packages) . Have a player choose or roll a career in the book & give the player bonus skills similar to the ones listed. Say a player starts play as a Thief or rogue but was trained to be a sailor or even a merchant. So he'd have skills he was trained for as a profession that he had prior to setting out on adventuring.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2010, 05:51:30 PM »
Trying to decide on if I should include a career package like (training packages) . Have a player choose or roll a career in the book & give the player bonus skills similar to the ones listed. Say a player starts play as a Thief or rogue but was trained to be a sailor or even a merchant. So he'd have skills he was trained for as a profession that he had prior to setting out on adventuring.

 I would say yes yes yes. It provides some background info as well as skills to round out the PC that players sometimes leave out for the more adventuring skills.
 For a recent RMSS game I added an addition step in PC gen. Adol became youth, in Adol I provided the PC with an 50 pt TP based on there background story/idea as well as up to 25 DP to spend and then did App as normal. All in all IMO it has worked very well and you could do the same thing with the WFRP job's as normal.

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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2010, 11:26:20 AM »
Cool. thanks for the imput Marc. I figured it would also help them build a interesting background much like in WHFRP with it's career system. My problem with the career system , is unless you have a good GM willing to enforce roleplaying your career . The careers become nuthin' but flavor text filled skill & ability packages (outside the Aprentice to Wizard & Initiate to Priest paths) to pick to upgrade your character.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2010, 05:14:10 PM »
I finished writing up the packages for the basic careers. Now I just have to type them up in a doc. Plus work on a chart for rolling the starting careers.
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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2010, 05:52:35 PM »
If you want you can make a section in the game world section for your game and people could comment on your work or suggest changes.

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Re: Warhammer to RM2/Ex?
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2010, 07:14:14 PM »
Cool.. I'll see about doing that tomarrow. I'll be taking some info n' such from 'Warpstone' Magazine & some online resources. I'll make issue/page notations instead of posting their info as well as links to pages that I find online. That way I don't violate peoples IPs. I may post converted npcs if it's allowed.
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