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« on: October 30, 2008, 01:51:50 PM »
Would their be any desire to see published a quarterly Shadowworld PDF based supplement ? In the vein of HB & EA about 15 pages . It'd be used for Terry & a few select authors to update the older SW supplements to bring them in line with Xa-ar .Then eventually a print supplement could compile the various articles into themed books. Such as a Jaiman sourcebook that compiles the Jaiman related articles  & so forth . Even though I don't own a computer right now I'd be willing to purchase such a supplement.
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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 01:06:39 AM »
I would love it. Shadow World seems to be the world I go back to again and again.
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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2008, 04:38:20 AM »
If there is desire for such a thing, we (Guild Companion Publications) would organise and publish it.

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 05:43:40 AM »
I'd certainly be interested.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 05:51:28 AM »
I would be interested for sure.
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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2008, 06:58:27 AM »
I'd like to say I'd be interested, since I want to support Shadow World as much as possible. But I cant really see myself paying for PDFs of non-terry stuff. (Well, Norek I would probably buy if I didnt already have a good dead-tree copy)

(Refering to the Old non-Terry stuff that is, I'm all for a "Approved by Terry" program with new material using Terry as writers version of Linus Torvalds)
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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 11:10:22 AM »
I'd buy it.

BTW, is Emer III going to be the southwest or the southeast quadrant? I can't remember...
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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2008, 12:38:17 PM »
Since I posted this topic I'd buy it for sure . What are Terry's thoughts on this ? Since I'd want him to be the primary writer for this . We already have GC interested the idea,now we need ICE & Terry since they'll be publishing it  LOL.
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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2008, 12:49:53 PM »
Since I posted this topic I'd buy it for sure . What are Terry's thoughts on this ? Since I'd want him to be the primary writer for this . We already have GC interested the idea,now we need ICE & Terry since they'll be publishing it  LOL.

No, we would be publishing it, not ICE. If there's interest and Terry is happy to be involved as a writer/editor, then it will happen.

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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2008, 01:42:16 PM »
Interested here as well
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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 07:06:06 AM »
I'd buy it.

BTW, is Emer III going to be the southwest or the southeast quadrant? I can't remember...

Southeast according to Terry at last update.

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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2008, 02:59:49 PM »
Ok..sorry for the misquote.Either way I'd buy it for sure.Viva la Shadowworld!!!

Since I posted this topic I'd buy it for sure . What are Terry's thoughts on this ? Since I'd want him to be the primary writer for this . We already have GC interested the idea,now we need ICE & Terry since they'll be publishing it  LOL.

No, we would be publishing it, not ICE. If there's interest and Terry is happy to be involved as a writer/editor, then it will happen.

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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2008, 10:33:07 AM »
Very much liking this idea :)

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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2008, 10:16:48 PM »
I'd be interested, but not if I had to ransom it each month/quarter -- that method's cumbersome and I'd prefer a straightforward subscription model.   I think we've ransomed enough of Terry's work to demonstrate we'll buy it.

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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2008, 03:27:34 AM »
If it's the 15 pages or so that was originally suggested, I wouldn't have thought a ransom would be needed. Articles would be much shorter than the adventures in TGA, say something like 2-5 pages. I'm sure many GMs have stuff that could be adapted to be published, NPCs, city details, short plots, stuff like that.
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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2008, 04:01:55 AM »
I guess I am an internet idiot as I do not understand this "ransoming" thing. Just put it out with a price and a way for me to buy it (i.e. paypal, credit card, etc..) and I will - so long as the price isn't too high. (Like $15+ per issue, as that would be too high for a pdf only item imo, unless it was really cool with lots of great art and maps and such. I am such a map nerd!!!)
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2008, 08:14:26 AM »
Great idea,
I would buy it, if its Terry approved.

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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2008, 10:55:58 AM »
Definite interest. But for me it musn?t at all to be Terry approved or written. Probably Terry is also in the range between 40 and 45. In this age it makes sense to think about succesors and co-writers.
And I would be also interested to read about different "moods" in SW.
But like metallion wrote: no ransom!

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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2008, 01:31:14 PM »
We used the ransom technique for TGAs as they represent a significant outlay for us as they are paid per word (too many authors for royalties) and are quite hefty in size. We need to know that enough people will buy that we'll break even. With Xa-ar, we could go royalty as it was single-author and it was Terry. I would not expect to need to use a ransom for short Shadow World only periodicals - even if there were multiple authors, the length would not be out of hand for pay-per-word.

(A ransom is where a work is held to "ransom" - patrons are solicited to pledge funds, if enough is pledged and the ransom is met, then the work is published on whatever the terms of the ransom are.)

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Re: SW PDF series
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2008, 01:52:53 PM »
I think there are other issues here. By Terry approving things, he makes them formal representatives of his Copyright, which dilutes his control and his enforceability of it. Any copyright owner has to be picky and somewhat choosy on who they allow to play with their copyrighted material.

I don't speak for Terry, so I don't really know if he is that picky, but he should be. It wouldn't take long for miss information, below quality products and and general thuggery to destroy what he has worked hard at. Just because you have 1 great product a year doesn't mean 20 horrible ones will not pull all that hard work down.

Have you ever looked at the Guild Companion members that write the books up? They are not necessarily better then us, but they are consistent and dependable and work hard at what they do. They are the guys that will inherit the Keys to Shadow World when it is time for Terry to move to Vog Mur, knock on wood he has a long and healthy life!

If you want to join the circle of Guild members then write, write and write more. We all love the world, appreciate the time that Terry and the rest put in, but that doesn't mean anyone of us can't step up and make it better. We all have that ability.

We do have the freedom to write our own adventures, timelines and activities, as long as we respect the individual copyright owners. We must make it clear that what we write is not endorsed by the copyright holders!

If we write a how to book for rolemaster, then that should be covered by Fair Use of their copyright (think "Windows for Dummies").

There is no reason why we, the community can not start a series of stories and adventures. The goal is to not confuse people by using home brewed rules, or stating which rules we dislike or ignore. The idea is to follow what they (ICE, Terry) have presented, and have given us the right to use (within reason of course). The entire time we encourage people to buy the relevant books.

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