Topic: Traveller Background to Spacemaster

[Nimbul666]

HI,

i like the spacemaster rules, but i also like the 3rd Imperium of the Traveller-Setting (and dislike the traveller rules for combat, skills and charakter creation). I like the world creation from Traveller.
Is there anyone who tried to convert this setting to the spacemaster rules?

[markc]

Yes David Johansen gave you his info here in your other thread.

Ah there they are:

http://www.guildcompanion.com/scrolls/2003/mar/tcgraces.html

2003 as it happens.

 I also know others have talked about it but I have not seen anything on it. I have used Traveller stuff with SM:P adventures without any problems but then I have been GMing for a long time and do not have trouble doing stuff on the fly.
MDC

[David Johansen]

errr...no that's my own races from my own setting however I'll throw a rough spin on it here.

Vargr (wolf guys)
Ag +2
Co +2
Me 0
Re 0
SD -2
Em +2
In +2
Pr -2
Qu +2
St -2

Background as for humans
Body Dev Progression as for humans
Mind Point Progression as for humans

Aslan (Lion Guys)
Ag -2
Co +4
Me 0
Re 0
SD +2
Em -2
In -2
Pr +4
Qu 0
St +4
Background as for Falar
Body Development as Tulgar
Mind Point Development as Tulgar

K'kree (centaur guys)
Ag -4
Co +6
Me +2
Re -2
SD +2
Em +2
In -2
Pr +2
Qu -2
St +8

Background as for Kagoth
Body Development as Kagoth
Mind Point Development as Human

Droyne (winged lizard guys)
Ag +2 (Warriors 0, Workers 0, Sports +2)
Co 0 (Warriors +2, Workers +4)
Me 0 (Leaders +2, Drones +2)
Re 0 (Leaders +2, Drones +4)
SD +4
Em 0 (Leaders +2)
In 0 (Drones +2)
Pr 0 (Leaders +4, Drones +2)
Qu +2 (Sports +2, Workers-2)
St -4 (Warriors +2, Workers +4)
Background as for Xanotasians
Body Development Progression: As for Oorts (Warriors and Workers as for humans)
Mind Point Development Progression

Villani (human varient)
Ag 0
Co +4
Me 0
Re +2
SD +2
Em -2
In 0
Pr 0
Qu 0
St +2
Background as for Oorts
Body Development as for Humans
Mind Point Development as for Humans

Solomani (human varient)
Ag 0
Co +2
Me 0
Re 0
SD +2
Em 0
In 0
Pr 0
Qu 0
St +0
Background as for Humans
Body Development as for Humans
Mind Point Development as for Humans

Zhodani (human variant)
Ag 0
Co +2
Me 0
Re 0
SD +4
Em 0
In 0
Pr 0
Qu 0
St +2
Background as for Xanotasians
Body Development as for Humans
Mind Point Development as for Tulgar

[markc]

 Those look good.
 
 I see that you forgot to list the Mind Point Dev for Droyne.
MDC

[David Johansen]

As for Xanotasians.  All Droyne are psionics.  They should also get Psychic Invisibility as an Everyman skill.

[David Johansen]

Here now, let me think a minute, maybe I can get more specific on background skills.

ASLAN
Athletic Brawn 2
Athletic Gymnastic 2, Climbing 2
Athletic Endurance 0, Swimming 0
Body Development 4
Communications 6, any Languages 6
Influence 2
Lore General 6, Own Region 6, Own Culture 6 (The Aslan really obsess over these)
Outdoor Environmental 2
Science Analytic Basic (males 1 females 3), Basic Math (males 1 females 3) , Research (males 1 females 3)
Subterfuge Stealth 2 (Stalking 2, Hiding 2)
Tech Trade General 2, Data Entry (females 2), First Aid (males 2, females 1)
Tech Trade Vehicle 1, Grav or Wheeled 1
Urban 1
Special Attacks, Bite (males 3, females 1), Claw (males 3, females 1)
Weapon 1 H Firearms 1 (any one 1)
Weapon 2 H Firearms 1 (any one 1)
Hobby Ranks 12

VARGR
Athletic Brawn 1
Athletic Gymnastic 1, Climbing 1
Athletic Endurance 1, Swimming 1
Body Development 2
Communications 8, any Languages 8
Influence 4 , any 4
Lore General 3, Own Region 3 , Own Culture 3
Outdoor Environmental 2
Science Analytic Basic 2, Basic Math 2  , Research 0
Subterfuge Stealth 3 (Stalking 3, Hiding 3)
Tech Trade General 1, Data Entry 1, First Aid 1
Tech Trade Vehicle 3, grav or wheeled 3 (motorcycle very common)
Urban 4, Street Wise 4, Contacting 4
Special Attacks, Bite 2, Claw 0
Weapon 1 H Firearms 1, any 1
Weapon 2 H Firearms 1, any 1
Hobby Ranks 12

K'KREE
Athletic Brawn 4
Athletic Gymnastic 0, Climbing 0
Athletic Endurance 2 , Swimming 2
Body Development 6
Communications 4, Languages 4
Influence 1
Lore General 3, Own Region 3, Own Culture 3
Outdoor Environmental 5 (the entire race is severely claustrophobic)
Science Analytic Basic 2, Basic Math 2, Research 2
Subterfuge Stealth 0
Tech Trade General 2, Data Entry 2, First Aid 2
Tech Trade Vehicle 0
Urban 1
Special Attacks, Bite 0, Claw 0
Weapon 1 H Firearms 1, any 1
Weapon 2 H Firearms 1, any 1
Hobby Ranks 12

DROYNE (let's just save ourselves some headaches and assume they develop these before casteing)
Athletic Brawn 1
Athletic Gymnastic 2 , Gliding 2
Athletic Endurance 1, Swimming 1
Body Development 1
Communications 8, any languages 8
Influence 2
Lore General 3, Own Region 3, Own Culture 3
Outdoor Environmental 2
Science Analytic Basic 2, Basic Math 2, Research 2
Subterfuge Stealth 4, Stalking 4, Hiding 4
Tech Trade General 2, Data Entry 2, First Aid 2
Tech Trade Vehicle 2, Grav or Wheeled 2
Urban 1
Special Attacks, Bite 1, Claw 1
Weapon 1 H Firearms 1, any 1
Weapon 2 H Firearms 1, any 1
Hobby Ranks 10

SOLOMANI
Athletic Brawn 2
Athletic Gymnastic2, Climbing 2
Athletic Endurance 2, Swimming 2
Body Development 2
Communications 6, any Languages 6
Influence 2
Lore General 1, Own Region 4, Own Culture 4 (yes they're a bit myopic like that)
Outdoor Environmental 2
Science Analytic Basic 2, Basic Math 2, Research 2
Subterfuge Stealth 1, Stalking 1, Hiding 1
Tech Trade General 2 , Data Entry 2, First Aid 2
Tech Trade Vehicle 4, wheeled or grav 4
Urban 4
Special Attacks, Bite 0, Claw 0
Weapon 1 H Firearms 2, any 2
Weapon 2 H Firearms 2, any 2

VILANI
Athletic Brawn 1
Athletic Gymnastic 1, Climbing 1
Athletic Endurance 1, Swimming 1
Body Development 2
Communications 8, any languages 8
Influence 4
Lore General 3, Own Region 3, Own Culture 3
Outdoor Environmental 1
Science Analytic Basic 3, Basic Math 3, Research 3
Subterfuge Stealth 0
Tech Trade General 3, Data Entry 3, First Aid 3
Tech Trade Vehicle 1, Grav 1
Urban 2
Special Attacks, Bite 0, Claw 0
Weapon 1 H Firearms 0
Weapon 2 H Firearms 1, any 1
Hobby Ranks 12


ZHODANI
Athletic Brawn 2
Athletic Gymnastic 2, Climbing 2
Athletic Endurance 2, Swimming 2
Body Development 2
Communications 4, any Languages 4
Influence 2
Lore General 1, Own Region 3, Own Culture 5 (The Aslan really obsess over these)
Outdoor Environmental 2
Science Analytic Basic 2, Basic Math 2, Research 2
Subterfuge Stealth 2, Stalking 2, Hiding 2
Tech Trade General 2, Data Entry 2, First Aid 2
Tech Trade Vehicle 1, Grav or Wheeled 1
Urban 1
Special Attacks, Bite 0, Claw 0
Weapon 1 H Firearms 1 (any one 1)
Weapon 2 H Firearms 1 (any one 1)
Hobby Ranks 12

[providence13]

Very nice..

[David Johansen]

I'll get Talent Point totals up and tweak them sometime.  It's just been a brutal week with the kids getting back to school.

[Gallowglacht]

Why are the sollies so weak? Is that a typo?

While I don't use all the SpaM rules, I do use Blaster Law as my combat system and find it works great for Traveller. As lethal as Traveller is sold as and a hell of a lot more fun than any Traveller ruleset. Or any other rpg system, bar 4th ed D&D, but for different reasons.

I posted a table somewhere for translating muzzle energies into SpaM terms, so if you use TNE, or real world weapons they might help stat it out. Other than that I can't help much as my character generation and skill calculations are homebrewed, other than to say give it a shot...

[markc]

Why are the sollies so weak? Is that a typo?

While I don't use all the SpaM rules, I do use Blaster Law as my combat system and find it works great for Traveller. As lethal as Traveller is sold as and a hell of a lot more fun than any Traveller ruleset. Or any other rpg system, bar 4th ed D&D, but for different reasons.

I posted a table somewhere for translating muzzle energies into SpaM terms, so if you use TNE, or real world weapons they might help stat it out. Other than that I can't help much as my character generation and skill calculations are homebrewed, other than to say give it a shot...

 I agree. Most often when I buy a game it is for the background material and then I convert it to SM:P or I could say convert SM:P to it.
MDC

[David Johansen]

It's because they are inferior to the mighty Vilani!  Or it's a typo...

St +2

[Gallowglacht]

It's because they are inferior to the mighty Vilani! 

Whatever eases the pain of Vilani cuisine...

[David Johansen]

Yes, the shugalli (cook / homeopath) is a harsh master but it makes us STRONGER than you Solomani with your soda pop and candy rotted teeth!

[Gallowglacht]

Actually, ancient advances in genetics mean an end to any dental hygene or potential weightgain issues. Solomani industries, building better people at a genetic level. Apply for your grant through your local party office.

Oh wait, you don't understand genetics? Ermm, magic pixies make people strong by eating doughnuts...

[David Johansen]

We understand genetics well enough to know better.  You Solomani just rush into everything without considering the consequences for a decent number of generations.  Small wonder your people lacked the character to maintain an empire.

[Gallowglacht]

(click to show/hide)

Ah yes, the glorious Ziru Sirka. A corrupt tyrany built on the enslaved back of the scattered children of ancient Terra. Stagnant and rotting, already falling to the Vargr and internal dissent, when it was toppled by the free people of a single world. An Empire surrendered to better men when it was clear the Vilani could do nothing to clen up a mess of their own making. 200 years was not enough time to clean up millenia of injustice and incompetance, to hold back the momentum of inevitability. For that we apologise, although the responsibility is yours. We strive to do better.
Hiding in the stangnant "glories" of the past is not consideration, but cowardice. But enough infighting. We will not begrudge you your comfort, resting in an Empire forged by Sylean hands and dreaming of your golden age, long past.
For while you live in the past, we look to the future, which belongs to us.

[OK, while this play-by-post is fun, it's also kinda threadjacking, so I'll stop]
Back on topic, are you still working on this, or was that a quick example for Nimbul? While I don't use the full SpaM rules for Traveller in my current game, it doesn't mean I won't in the future. (converting 7 8th level characters turned me off, as I had not mastered the system) Seeing conversions by those who understand the system better is of real, genuine help for doing so in the future. So I'll be keeping an eye on this thread in the future and popping in with the occasional question anyway.

[markc]

 For higher level PC's I just use the chart in the SM:P book that gives skills for various levels of professions.
MDC

[David Johansen]

Oh, I'll get it straightend out and done, it's just been some crazy weeks here.

I need to put Awareness skills into the racial background skills, for one thing.

As far as higher level characters go, it's actually not much more work at any given level, at the easiest you can just multiply the first level ranks by eight.  But even actually spending the DPs is pretty simple.  I will point out that the most important thing to remember is that there is absolutely no reason to total the bonuses for each level.  Just do it once.

[David Johansen]

Okay, here's the final draft, now including HIVERS.

http://www3.telus.net/public/uncouths/TravSPAM.pdf

[Gadrin]

Interesting, though I'm barely familiar with Spacemaster.

I've thought to use the Falar as templates for Aslan clans, differing types of aslans within
their overall race, or is that too narrow an interpretation ?

I like the Oorts too. They'd be a nice port to any other RPG, including Traveller 

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