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Title: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: JUNKdeLUXE on January 26, 2016, 07:28:12 AM
So.. Adrenal Defense (among a few others) have been banned from our games the last 15-20 years and now we're trying to go back to basis. No house-rules, all core rules apply (even attack phases and exhaustion points, activity % etc).

In that regard I'm trying to figure out how it works. Under the other other Adrenal Moves, it's explained that you need to roll 101+ to activate it, but it doesn't say this for Adrenal Defense. Does that mean AD is working for all attacks (that I'm aware of) without rolling for it, using 20% activity etc?!?
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: Peter R on January 26, 2016, 09:07:18 AM
We have always used this a bit like carrying a shield. It just works as long as all the criteria are met i.e. you are aware of the attack and not over burdened with armour and weapons.
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: Elf-Mage on January 26, 2016, 09:15:04 AM
It basically works like additional DB, except that it only works when you are aware that you are being attacked. It is reduced by 75% against ranged attacks, and doesn't work against magic. Also, you can only wear armour types 1, 2, or 3 and still use adrenal defence.
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: OLF, i.e. Olf Le Fol on January 27, 2016, 07:41:27 AM
It is reduced by 75% against ranged attacks, (...)
50%

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Also, you can only wear armour types 1, 2, or 3 and still use adrenal defence.
RoCo.IV has a rule and additional skills in order to use Adrenal defense whilst wearing an armour or large weapons.
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: Malim on August 27, 2021, 05:07:57 PM
How much % activity does it take to use AD?
Can you cast a instant spell while doing it?
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: Hurin on August 27, 2021, 05:38:46 PM
Like Peter, we just assumed it did not use any activity % at all. I'm not aware of any text that assigns it an activity cost. Peter's analogy with wearing a shield is a good one.
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: PiXeL01 on August 27, 2021, 07:00:50 PM
In RM2 there were no activation costs, it just works against all attacks you are aware of, though reduced by 50% against ranged attacks.

You cannot wear armor, be encumbered, or use any weapon other than those used as part of a weapon kata.
That limits it to a skill used by martial artists.
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: Malim on August 28, 2021, 02:23:18 PM
Or Bashkars :)
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: PiXeL01 on August 29, 2021, 07:32:54 AM
Come to think of it I think the people who made professions for RCI may have forgotten the limitations of the skills as Barbarians and Burglars use that skill for defense too. Yet barbarians are always thought off as using two-handed weapons (Conan!) and while burglar do use smaller weapons they do not use MA …
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: Malim on August 29, 2021, 10:41:46 AM
Come to think of it I think the people who made professions for RCI may have forgotten the limitations of the skills as Barbarians and Burglars use that skill for defense too. Yet barbarians are always thought off as using two-handed weapons (Conan!) and while burglar do use smaller weapons they do not use MA …

barbarians in RM is more like a nature warrior. Not super a full on warrior type in my opinion. A low tech fighter/rural fighter.
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: Spectre771 on August 30, 2021, 10:45:58 AM
barbarians in RM is more like a nature warrior. Not super a full on warrior type in my opinion. A low tech fighter/rural fighter.

Agree 100%!  I've always felt the RM Barbarian was like the Ranger without magic.  The Bashkar seemed more in line with the "Conan" type profession.
 Sorry... off-topic.
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: EltonJ on September 01, 2021, 05:51:46 PM
You can think of Adrenal Defense in this way.  In that other game's third edition, there was a class feature called uncanny dodge.  Adrenal Defense worked like Uncanny Dodge.  Only you have to be wearing minimal to no armor for it to work.
Title: Re: Adrenal Defense - how does it work
Post by: PiXeL01 on September 02, 2021, 05:27:29 AM
Personally I have no problem with barbarians being allowed to do as a profession feature ^^ sword and sandal all the way!