Topic: Print Version and Pricing

[Defendi]

We're discussing it.

[Lichemaster]

I downloaded the "what to buy" last night from your website and would buy a soft cover book for $30-$34. As I live in Canada Amazon is better (for me).
I'm bringing this topic back from the dead cause I would like to know if plans are going to happen with this as I would rather shoot myself then read a PDF 

So is this a dead topic?

Thanks in advance...............

[Defendi]

Not dead.  We've seen a test print of the first book, HARP version.  The paperback looked great, the hardback had quality issues, but support seemed to think it was just a bad print job and look like they're sending me a new copy.  I've ordered paperback and hardbound version of the OGL version and I'm hoping to do HERO and RM this week.  Once I've seen good copies of all versions, they will go live.

They'll probably be shipped from Lulu, though.  I don't know offhand if Lulu has a Canadian print center.  What are shipping costs like from the US to Canada?

[Nejira]

Rpgs are incredible expensive here so if I only had to pay $35 for a book I would be happy. As it is now a rpg priced to $35 ends up costing close to$70 here. That being said, I think the 30-35$ range is an acceptable price. If you bundle the settingbook with the adventure (as the pdf) $35 isnt a bad price. Generally if its $40 and up I start to want hardcover and fullcolor illustrations.

There is also the idea of setting the first book cheaper than it should be to get more people trying it out, and then sell more sourcebooks. Wizards did this for the first DnD 3rd corebooks.

As for pdf products, I would stay with the current price as it may convince people to buy their copy instead of getting it elsewhere. Whereas is the price for a pdf closer to what a hardcopy would cost I think more would select the other solution. Wouldnt it also means more products sold if the price for the pdf were lower?

[Lichemaster]

*The core books for DnD 3rd ed. were cheap do to the amount of printed books they did, they have an established customer base which far out weights Echoes, so No the price could not be cheaper as it would reflex lower profit on Defendi.

*My opinion.

I'm fortunate enough to have contacts in the states so it will not be a problem if I have to order via a U.S store. I have never dealt with Lulu but will.

Defendi, any chance on a time frame? Before Christmas?
Also are you willing to take an extra $5 to sign a copy I purchase? 

[Defendi]

It should be before christmas.  I hope to be waiting on proof copies by the end of next week.  We could work out an autograph.  I should be ordering some from ICE to have onhand for special orders and conventions and the like.

[Lichemaster]

Looking forward to getting it in print.

Are you going to do just The Echoes of Heaven/The Throne of God at first and the rest at a later time?

[Defendi]

Well, the only way to not do the rest at a later time would be to put it off indefinitely until all the others were finished.  That would be six months to a year.

[Lichemaster]

I'm willing to wait but need my fix now 

[Defendi]

Heh.  I think this one will have taken me some 3 or 4 hundred hours to get ready for print.  Whew!

[WoeRie]

I don?t know if this is still possible, but wouldn?t it be great to have the adventure seeds included in the corresponding books?
I think buying them separately is too expensive for most people and it would be a nice goody for the printed version.

Just an idea... 

[Defendi]

It IS too late.  I'm not sure what I'd do if it wasn't, though.  The adventure seeds kinda mesh with Guild Adventurer stuff, and I can't add those.    However, At this point, it would push everything back a month.