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Systems & Settings => Rolemaster => RMC/RM2 => Topic started by: Onirim on October 19, 2020, 10:38:01 AM
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Hi people,
I try actually to sent to Roll20 a character sheet for RM2/RMC who is light to be used with near all the options of RM2/RMC. So I keep the auto-calculations low, and don't fix the skill list.
(https://zupimages.net/up/20/43/gzo6.png)
There is 4 pages:
- Character (with attributes, armor informations, wounds, skills and resistances)
- Equipment (separate equipment and possession lists)
- Magic (each spell can be added into a spell list, and the spell list can be expanded to see all the spells inside)
- Background (with background, relatives and notes)
Actually it's difficult because there is already an other RM2 sheet, but this sheet is no useful for me because I want to be free to use the rules and options I want, not the rules of the GM who created the sheet). I hope Roll20 will accept.
Crossing fingers !
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I really like your sheet. I like the way you've used a coloured background; it helps to make the white information boxes stand out. It also seems quite elegant in design.
Let us know what Roll20 says!
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Thank you very much!
Roll20 are quick to answer and after some explanations about Rolemaster version, they said YES :)
I need to fix some <table> abuse (I've used table for "table" headers, but not for storing data, so I need to replace them by divs).
After the initial release, I will add a page option for colors, calculation rules (for example having the choice for professional bonuses calculation by level or fixed) and the like.
My ultimate goal is to have a RM2/RMC sheet who can handle the most optional rules :)
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Beautiful work. It took me a few moments of reading the other skills to realize it was in French. :) Very impressive sheet. I agree, the color and background look fantastic.
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It took me a few moments of reading the other skills to realize it was in French. :)
Yes, and I love the way the French editions translate 'Channeling': 'Theurgie', like the English Theurgy, which is literally 'god-working' or 'god-invoking'.
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Just to remind you. There is a RM2 sheet that roll20 team accepted to the rolemaster sheet list.
We are still working on it now and again :)
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Just to remind you. There is a RM2 sheet that roll20 team accepted to the rolemaster sheet list.
We are still working on it now and again :)
I've tried to use your sheet but it's too much tabs and informations for my basic use, and the skill bonus doesn't work as the base rules ; I need a lighter base sheet with less auto-calculations for being used with the more RM2/RMC options. So I take a completely different approach for my sheet :)
Think of my sheet as a simple and basic sheet, adaptable to many play styles. You're sheet appear to be nicely automatized and very complete and I hope you will continue that way :)
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So, is it live?
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So, is it live?
The sheet will be live on the next week (Roll20 have a weekly pulling cycle) if all goes well :)
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It took me a few moments of reading the other skills to realize it was in French. :)
Yes, and I love the way the French editions translate 'Channeling': 'Theurgie', like the English Theurgy, which is literally 'god-working' or 'god-invoking'.
I love "Elfique"! :)
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I love "Elfique"! :)
Nice one!
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The sheet will be live on the next week (Roll20 have a weekly pulling cycle) if all goes well :)
Cool, I look forward to checking it out. I will point it out to the gm of my MERP game - he plans on changing to RM once we hit 10th level.
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Can it be made in english?
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I try actually to sent to Roll20 a character sheet for RM2/RMC who is light to be used with near all the options of RM2/RMC.
can you implement a switch between:
* Classic Development Points (Standard Method)
* All Stat Development Points (RoCo#5, Ch 5.2, pg 21)
* Fixed Development Points (Homebrew)
these are the variants i have encountered so far in real life.
some also prefer PP calculation based on stat bonus (RoCo#6, Ch 5.8, pg 31)
thx
T
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The sheet is in french and English actually (the PC in the screenshot is a French PC on a English version of the sheet).
For the dev points, it's a good idea, I will definitely do that :)
For information, I don't calculate the secondary skill dev point bonus, because there is no standard rules for this.
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For information, I don't calculate the secondary skill dev point bonus, because there is no standard rules for this.
i have seen in the past, if either the (2) or the (3) options to calculate DP are in use, that also covers the (implied) DP for secondary skills.
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A couple of things you may want to look at:
1) Ability to print off or have page of only skills
2) Page of only weapons and or spell attacks
Why? In the past I have had a few players ask for such and find it easier to play the game if they had info in such a way.
MDC
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1) Ability to print off or have page of only skills
The ability to print these sheets is not something that can be done in the Roll20 sheet itself. That would be done using the print capabilities of the browser in which the game is running. I have never tried printing off a character sheet so I have no idea how well it would work.
Good work on the sheet. It is clean and tight. Hopefully converting the tables to divs doesn't have too big of an impact on the layout.
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Thanks for the info as I do not use the service.
But in general I ask players to try and have a hard copy as well as a ecopy when gaming in person incase "strange things" occur. ie computer crash, power outage (ie back to play by candle light or flash light), net issues, etc.
MDC
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But in general I ask players to try and have a hard copy as well as a ecopy when gaming in person incase "strange things" occur. ie computer crash, power outage (ie back to play by candle light or flash light), net issues, etc.
That is good idea. I play solely online so it isn't an option for my groups. If tech problems occur, it will end the session. It hasn't happened yet, but I know it will at some point.
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In Dec of last year I was at a Starfinder game and we lost power, luckily we all had our PC/Tablets/Phones open with our PC's and then GM just had to draw the maps instead of relying on the LCD that he used for a map surface.
Another good tip:
If you have a lot of tabs open or and specific order of items to display, make a text doc with the links to each item. That way if you have them open and something happens to your browser you can just quickly go to your text doc with the links and click on them there. You do not have to try and remember exactly where and what you had prep'ed if something crazy happens.
The above is a tip I learned when teaching MCSE classes and it has helped in so many other things.
MDC
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So... the Roll20 sheet is really an integrated sheet for using the Roll20 platform. No printing or saving outside of Roll20 is possible, but the sheet are saved in the Roll20 cloud platform, not on your computer. No loss if you computer/tablet crash. If you have an internet connection, that's work :)
I've been able to change the table layout without visual impact, so the code is good for the pull request now.
You can see on the right side of the character sheet a small table with weapons skills. This is a recap of the combat skills the player can fin and use easily. They can enter the OB/DB split, and can use it for directed spells as well. So in combat, no need to search on the full primary skill list :)
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Onirim is this up on the Roll20 list of Rolemaster versions?
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I know nothing of Roll20 so thanks for that info.
MDC
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Hi all,
The Rolemaster 2nd-Classic character sheet is live! It's working for RM1 and RMX too, and "may" work for RMU.
On the campaign setting page and on the settings tab of the character sheet you can change the hp calculations and the professional bonus calculations.
Next week I plan to add a color selection for the sheet.
Happy gaming!
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In the skill section: is it only the prof bonus that is coded with lvl ? And where do I get my bonus form ranks?
Stats: Does it not calculate the stat bonus from the stat written in?
OB: what does is the DB after the OB do?
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In the skill section: is it only the prof bonus that is coded with lvl ? And where do I get my bonus form ranks?
Stats: Does it not calculate the stat bonus from the stat written in?
OB: what does is the DB after the OB do?
In the skill section, the only bonus per level calculated (is the right option is chosen) is the profession bonus. I don't calculate the bonus by ranks because it depend of the skill (some skills use a 5% per point, some a 1% per point, and the other 5/5/2/2/1. And I want the GM to be capable of using the bonus he want from the #ranks, so no calculations here.
In the stats, I don't calculate the stat bonus because there is so much options about that, I want the GM to be able to choose and adapt. So yeah, you need to calculate the stat bonus (by addition like RMU or RMFRP, by simple stat bonus like the base rules, or legacy style by the average stats of 1, 2 or 3 stats). Too difficult to made this in code for the moment, but maybe later!
For the weapons you have the OB and DB because of the weapon skill split rule. The player can choose, for each round of combat, how many of the skill bonus goes to OB, and how many goes to DB. The player can also enter some predefined scores, for example an offensive sword stance (60 OB, 10 DB), a standard stance (35 OB, 35 DB) or a defensive stance (0 OB, 75 DB because of the +5 def weapon).
:)
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I was playing around with it a little today and really all it needs is the various bits of math to be done for us. I get the reasoning behind not having it in there, and as a non-programmer who has done some "copy and paste" scripts to use APIs in Roll20, I can see the complication even small bits of random put in them, but (you knew it was coming ;) ) I have also seen other sheets that have various options on the "Game Settings" page where you can choose specific rules to use.
For example, I have been putting together a Pulp-Era Isle of Dread campaign (punch Nazis!, ride dinosaurs!, delve ancient and non-human ruins!) and have decided on using the Pulp Cthulhu rules (dabbled with d6, but went another direction). When I chose them, the page had options for my to choose from, including the era and if I was wanting to use the Pulp Cthulhu rules. So, I chose what I wanted and the character sheet uses those rules. I guess what I am saying is that you could put it together where the individual user would be able to choose what rules they wanted when they put the campaign together.
I also get that you are not doing this for money (at least not directly, and the indirect route is long and winding), but I and quite a few others would absolutely love to have better RM options on Roll20. And, as it is a very popular gaming site, making the character creation and advancement process for RM as easy as possible would be the best way to get more players on board. That is one of the biggest gripes I hear about the game: takes so long to make a character that can die in 5-seconds.
Now, ICE, let me talk to you about importing the combat tables so they can be a built in feature...
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Hi RandalThor,
I plan to add some more calculations in the future, and I will always put an option to no calculate some things, because RM is all about options and houserules. I plan to add stats bonus and rank bonus calculations for example, but need to keep it simple and understandable too.
I've always played Rolemaster, since 1996, with sheets of paper and a pencil. For me, no RPG need to be fully automated because heh, it's not a video game! If a rule cannot be handled by humain brain it's a bad rule, and it's the main reason I always play to RM2 and keep it simple. So automatisation is not a big deal for me. I understand it will help, and I will code some more features :)
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So... the Roll20 sheet is really an integrated sheet for using the Roll20 platform.
Thank you for your work on this and sharing it with the Rolemaster community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hello Onirim,
I don't think any of the things I was talking about would deny anyone their ability to have house rules. It would only mean that GM would have to choose the options when they put together the campaign so they will be reflected on the PC sheet. I think that would actually be a good thing because it would make the GM think about them and codify them, and then not have to worry about them. (Of course, it would be a good idea to make sure the players know. Duh. ;D )
Us old timers don't tend to worry too much about putting in some time to do things in games, but we are being phased out, and if ICE wants to be a game company with a future, they are going to need to start catering to the newer gamers. That is just the way things work. Evolution.
Thanks for putting the work in, it is really appreciated.
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Update for the next week:
- Adding development points auto-calculations (flat or by level)
- Adding development point bonus calculations (fixed or by % of primary dev points)
- Adding the BMR in the sheet (and the maximum pace selection)
- Adding the sheet color selection in the options (just because it's beautiful)
- Cleaning the code
I hope you will like them :)
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- Adding the sheet color selection in the options (just because it's beautiful)
That's a wonderful idea!
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Update for the next week:
- Adding development points auto-calculations (flat or by level)
- Adding development point bonus calculations (fixed or by % of primary dev points)
- Adding the BMR in the sheet (and the maximum pace selection)
- Adding the sheet color selection in the options (just because it's beautiful)
- Cleaning the code
I hope you will like them :)
Looking forward to the updates :0