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Systems & Settings => Spacemaster => Topic started by: NicholasHMCaldwell on August 04, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
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Here is the current projected release schedule for Spacemaster 2nd Edition products. These are all scans so the quality is imperfect. Note that products may be shuffled into weekend releases in order to give priority to rebranded or new products.
8th August - Spacemaster GM Book
9th August - Spacemaster Player Book
10th August - Spacemaster Tech Book
11th August - Spacemaster Companion II
12th August - Action on Akaisha Outstation
15th August - The Cygnus Conspiracy
16th August - Lost Telepaths
17th August - The Durandrium Find
18th August - Legacy of the Ancients
19th August - Disaster on Adanis III
22nd August - Raiders from the Frontier
23rd August - Star Strike
24th August - Armored Assault
25th August - Armored Reserves
26th August - Vessel Compendium #1 - Adventurer Class
29th August - Vessel Compendium #2 - Pursuit Class
30th August - Vessel Compendium #3 - Imperial Ships
10th November - The Spacemaster Companion
14th November - League of Merchants
15th November - Beyond the Core
16th November - Tales from Deep Space
17th November - War on a Distant Moon
18th November - Imperial Crisis: House Devon in Turmoil
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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Thank you! Are SpaMCoI and II, and the later adventure modules (League of Merchants, etc.) being worked on as well?
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IIRC the Spam Co I is not under ICE contract but Spam Co II is. The same goes for all of the other products IIRC.
MDC
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Sorry, I'm not reading your response very clearly. So SpaMCo I is out, but the other adventure modules are in (at some point)?
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Sorry, I'm not reading your response very clearly. So SpaMCo I is out, but the other adventure modules are in (at some point)?
From what I remember ICE has scans of all of the products that they can sell and I think the above list is all the SM2 products that they have permission for. So if it is not on the list above they probably do not have the rights to sell the product. From announcements by Thom they are pursuing all possible authors and products they can based on viability and ability to contact author.
I will send Nicholas HM Caldwell a PM and see he gets an official answer for you.
So yes as far as I know Spam Co I and League of Merchants is out but might be being pursued or in negotiations, which I know nothing about. But again I am PMing N HM C to get you an official answer.
MDC
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If a product is not on the list, Aurigas and GCP do not currently have permission to sell the product.
We are, however, working to locate lost authors and negotiate agreements with them whereby their work can be republished in return for modest payment. We have located at least one lost Spacemaster author so hopefully we will be able to bring back more products in due course. The same goes for Cyberspace and Rolemaster 2nd Edition.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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Thank you both.
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The original Space Master Companion for 1st/2nd Edition Spacemaster has been released as a scanned pdf via OneBookShelf
http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=96429
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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The original Space Master Companion was only for 1st Edition. IIRC, all of the content with the exception of some of the detail on MIRCs was included in the 2nd edition ruleset (though you needed Star Strike and Armored Assault to get all of it).
There is also a Space Master Companion (called Space Master Companion I) for 2nd edition rules (blue cover, looks like a cantina). Space Master Companion II (yellowish cover, robot fight) was also for 2nd edition rules.
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So, no chance that we'll see a reprint of "Aliens and Artifacts"? That's too bad....
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I really hope Aliens & Artifacts gets released as a PDF. It is hands-down one of the best sourcebooks ever produced for an RPG.
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Working on it per the "Lost authors" thread. . . .Sea Law is also now back for the first time in a long long time. . . .if there's a book you'd really love to see, go look up it's author on the list and find them. . .heh.
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So, no chance that we'll see a reprint of "Aliens and Artifacts"? That's too bad....
Aliens & Artifacts is in a strange place. David Pulver was never paid for it by Old Ice, it also formally reverted to him courtesy of the Old ICE bankruptcy place. David Pulver never became a lost author, however. Eventually he extracted some of its content, removed the Spacemaster trappings and reused it in GURPS Traveller products. A chunk of the material is Aurigas-owned, a chunk is owned by David Pulver and a chunk is lost forever. So we cannot return Aliens & Artifacts as-is, I've got to make a page and word count of the limbo content, and make David Pulver an offer. If it goes through, we'll then have to produce an abridged version or perhaps it may feature in a future Imperium setting sourcebook.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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So, no chance that we'll see a reprint of "Aliens and Artifacts"? That's too bad....
Aliens & Artifacts is in a strange place. David Pulver was never paid for it by Old Ice, it also formally reverted to him courtesy of the Old ICE bankruptcy place. David Pulver never became a lost author, however. Eventually he extracted some of its content, removed the Spacemaster trappings and reused it in GURPS Traveller products. A chunk of the material is Aurigas-owned, a chunk is owned by David Pulver and a chunk is lost forever. So we cannot return Aliens & Artifacts as-is, I've got to make a page and word count of the limbo content, and make David Pulver an offer. If it goes through, we'll then have to produce an abridged version or perhaps it may feature in a future Imperium setting sourcebook.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
Nice, hopefully a work around can be found. And maybe David or you can say what material was transferred to what Traveller product for easy look up.
MDC
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The schedule has been updated with 5 new never-before-seen-in-pdf Spacemaster modules. All of which should be text searchable (covers excepted). Many thanks to Terry Amthor for scanning books for us, and to Tod Foley and Kevin Barrett for being willing to come to mutually satisfactory agreements with us.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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The GURPS version of Aliens and Artifacts even reused the cover art! The proportion of re-used data was not insignificant ... but the key would be to work out where the content that was not David's came from ... because that's the section that currently has no hope of being recovered! (David might or might not accept an offer ... but an unknown author is remarkably hard to track down!)
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The GURPS version of Aliens and Artifacts even reused the cover art! The proportion of re-used data was not insignificant ... but the key would be to work out where the content that was not David's came from ... because that's the section that currently has no hope of being recovered! (David might or might not accept an offer ... but an unknown author is remarkably hard to track down!)
The other third chunk is already Aurigas owned. That is not a problem.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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The schedule has been updated with 5 new never-before-seen-in-pdf Spacemaster modules. All of which should be text searchable (covers excepted). Many thanks to Terry Amthor for scanning books for us, and to Tod Foley and Kevin Barrett for being willing to come to mutually satisfactory agreements with us.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
Thank you very much to Tod and Kevin.
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The GURPS version of Aliens and Artifacts even reused the cover art! The proportion of re-used data was not insignificant ... but the key would be to work out where the content that was not David's came from ... because that's the section that currently has no hope of being recovered! (David might or might not accept an offer ... but an unknown author is remarkably hard to track down!)
Would Gurps be willing to license the content they published and "own" to Aurigas, so that the original could be published in full form?
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The GURPS version of Aliens and Artifacts even reused the cover art! The proportion of re-used data was not insignificant ... but the key would be to work out where the content that was not David's came from ... because that's the section that currently has no hope of being recovered! (David might or might not accept an offer ... but an unknown author is remarkably hard to track down!)
Would Gurps be willing to license the content they published and "own" to Aurigas, so that the original could be published in full form?
We've already discussed that option with Steve Jackson Games and could not reach an agreement that made all parties happy.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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That's really too bad. Thank you for trying, though.
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Any chance we could get a few bundled deals for the Holiday season?
For instance:
Classic Adventure Bundle
Core Rulebook bundle
Boardgame bundle
Space Combat bundle
or something similar?
>>ReaperWolf
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Any chance we could get a few bundled deals for the Holiday season?
For instance:
Classic Adventure Bundle
Core Rulebook bundle
Boardgame bundle
Space Combat bundle
or something similar?
>>ReaperWolf
I am not a fan of bundles. Partly this is because we, our licensor, and, for quite a few products including all the newly available Spacemaster pdfs, the authors, get paid royalties on the sale price. If I cut the sale price, everyone gets less money. Instead I determine what I believe to be a fair price for any product that will enable it to pay its way in the world and set it thusly.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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I'm not sure if PDF-based RPGs follow the same pricing and sales trends as video games, but if they do, take a look at some of the numbers Brad Wardell (CEO @ Stardock) and Valve (owners of Steam) release when they have sales.
If they don't, then feel free to ignore of course.
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There is also a Space Master Companion (called Space Master Companion I) for 2nd edition rules (blue cover, looks like a cantina).
Is there a release plan for 2nd ed Companion I, item #9002?
-Terry
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There is also a Space Master Companion (called Space Master Companion I) for 2nd edition rules (blue cover, looks like a cantina).
Is there a release plan for 2nd ed Companion I, item #9002?
-Terry
If we can find its author and come to a mutually satisfactory arrangement, then it will go up. If not, it stays in limbo.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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There is also a Space Master Companion (called Space Master Companion I) for 2nd edition rules (blue cover, looks like a cantina).
Is there a release plan for 2nd ed Companion I, item #9002?
-Terry
If they can find the authors and they agree to the product being sold then I would say yes ICE would do it. As to a date? ICE has plans to rebrand a lot of other stuff before getting to SM2 titles, unless the rebrand is easy to do.
MDC
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Another book I would love to get my hands on is "Aliens and Artifacts".
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Had a copy and lost it in the last few months. :(
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Do I at least get points for persistence???
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Any of these products going to be in hard-copy? It seems, from initial glance, that only the PDF version is available for sale.
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Any of these products going to be in hard-copy? It seems, from initial glance, that only the PDF version is available for sale.
Unfortunately, no, not as currently presented as the build files for these products were lost years ago. We do want to release an Imperium setting sourcebook in the future for HARp SF and eventually unified Spacemaster.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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Hmm... first post here. Glad to hear the Imperium is coming back instead of the Privateers universe. And that brings up a question. Will the Silent Death timeline be integrated back into things? I had a thought for the ending to Terry's trilogy...everyone converges on Ondoval's stronghold with the Soulsword...defeats him...destroys the Soulstone...then the Dia Khovaria,to make sure the job is done,brings in one of it's warships and bombards the site from orbit with Mk 100 Plasma Cannons!! Ondovals not dead though and in a last act of revenge before being atomized by the bombardment activates a long dormant K'ta'viir bioweapon...seeded throughout their old empire millennia ago...a horror the Imperium eventually names ...the Night Brood. Scary thought that. Happy Halloween!!
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Welcome Jraffa. I like the idea that the Night Brood are an old K'ta'viir weapon.
While the pdfs of the SM2 setting (Imperium) are being released, I have no idea if that is going to be the official setting if/when they start to re-do the Spacemaster RPG, though, like you I prefer over the Privateers setting.
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The Silent Death timeline will not be integrated into a returned Imperium sourcebook. As far as we are concerned, the Imperium does not fall and the Brood do not exist.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
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Nice to hear. The Imperium has too much potential to die so soon and so quickly.
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I'd still have an enemy similar to the Brood. A hostile alien race on the frontier the Empire wars against. A few light years out from the frontier is the occupied and smoking remains of the Brood Home World, with the enemy empire still controlling a hundred solar systems. Far to small to ever defeat the empire, but a great adventure hook. Primarily I could see a real xenophobic fervor sweeping the empire, with Emperor all to eager to promote humanistic patriotism, so easily channeled into faithful vassals.
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Does anyone know or have access of the correlation of the Silent Death star maps to the Spacemaster 2nd Ed maps? I would really like to find that info..
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Hmm... first post here. Glad to hear the Imperium is coming back instead of the Privateers universe. And that brings up a question. Will the Silent Death timeline be integrated back into things? I had a thought for the ending to Terry's trilogy...everyone converges on Ondoval's stronghold with the Soulsword...defeats him...destroys the Soulstone...then the Dia Khovaria,to make sure the job is done,brings in one of it's warships and bombards the site from orbit with Mk 100 Plasma Cannons!! Ondovals not dead though and in a last act of revenge before being atomized by the bombardment activates a long dormant K'ta'viir bioweapon...seeded throughout their old empire millennia ago...a horror the Imperium eventually names ...the Night Brood. Scary thought that. Happy Halloween!!
Oh myyy! 8)
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Any of these products going to be in hard-copy? It seems, from initial glance, that only the PDF version is available for sale.
Unfortunately, no, not as currently presented as the build files for these products were lost years ago. We do want to release an Imperium setting sourcebook in the future for HARp SF and eventually unified Spacemaster.
Best wishes,
Nicholas
I would SO love to do this! (As if I don't already have enough on my plate/platter/desktop). Or maybe at least edit it, since no one knows more about the SM2 Imperium than Barrett and me.
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Well, you do have an unfair advantage.
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Well, you do have an unfair advantage.
Yes, yes I do. 8)
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Hmm... first post here. Glad to hear the Imperium is coming back instead of the Privateers universe. And that brings up a question. Will the Silent Death timeline be integrated back into things? I had a thought for the ending to Terry's trilogy...everyone converges on Ondoval's stronghold with the Soulsword...defeats him...destroys the Soulstone...then the Dia Khovaria,to make sure the job is done,brings in one of it's warships and bombards the site from orbit with Mk 100 Plasma Cannons!! Ondovals not dead though and in a last act of revenge before being atomized by the bombardment activates a long dormant K'ta'viir bioweapon...seeded throughout their old empire millennia ago...a horror the Imperium eventually names ...the Night Brood. Scary thought that. Happy Halloween!!
Congratulations. The Brood as A Luar bioweapon is something I have been using for YEARS. LOL
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The old Imperium setting is the best in my opinion. I would love to see some updated info with the Silent Death timeline thrown in. What I would also think might be good (from my point, but also probably from a financial standpoint) is to see house books for some of the imperium that was never given any details. If you stated it out in a few different ways, those of us who still use the Privateers rules would buy it as well as the HARP SF players. The old nightbrood first edition book had a list of a ton of houses that had zero info on them, I have done write ups on several already. (Sul Huvascar Reserves, Castor Shires, Teru Fastness so far.) And would happily provide what I wrote up for publication.
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I am loving this GM integration between Shadow World and SpaceMaster Imperium! I'm excited about the idea of updating the Imperium background, and maybe working with others to expand the houses and other background. As an older system guy myself, I will depend on others for the HARP and other conversions, and Nicholas will handle that. :-)
And for those who don't know, I wrote some fiction for the Imperium game, never finished or published, but you might enjoy it.
http://gil.machighway.com/~eidolons/Shadow_World/Space_Master_Fiction.html (http://gil.machighway.com/~eidolons/Shadow_World/Space_Master_Fiction.html)