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Green Gryphon Errors
« on: April 01, 2015, 09:15:26 AM »
p.7 "Then first town south of Gryphonburgh..." Probably should read "The first town"
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2015, 10:09:31 AM »
p.10 Blood Mosquito section "They are mostly active in the Spring and Summer While more of a pest" Missing . between Summer and While.

"Wintermist Fen" Fen should probably be in italics also.
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2015, 01:03:34 PM »
p.12 In the section starting Grey-blue: Slate "slate shingle roof, These" the , should probably be a .

p.13 In section 4.2, Green Gryhon Inn and Blackmoor Tavern are in normal text. In 4.4 Blackmoor is in normal and Gryphon in italics. In 4.5 Wyvern, Blackmoor and Gryphon are all in italics. In 4.6, Phoenix is in italics and Gryphon in normal (p.14). I think that all the references to the taverns should be in italics, rather than swapping between italics and normal.
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2015, 08:29:19 PM »
Page 10 Dire Crow: "beast" should be plural and "attacking" should be "attack."
Page 11 Greater Skeleton: "Bite" (?) "regenerates hits equal to those delivered."

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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2015, 03:58:24 AM »
I'm still starting but I found something strange:

Page 15: 15. Temple of Scalu -> Scalu as the Cat-God? Should not be Andaras?

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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2015, 04:04:17 AM »
p.16 section 26 "Gryhonburgh Castle" - Should be Gryphonburgh
p.16 Generic Locations section C "Blacksmith. From weapons to door locks to" - Sentence fragment.
p.18 Lodging Services section "(and earn the ire of housekeeping)" - No full stop at the end.
p.19 Paragraph starting "All the private rooms" ends with "(including water for the tanks on the roof)" - No full stop at the end.
p.20 First/Main Floor section 3. Bar "The Gryphonburgh Inn" - Not in italics and I think it should be "The Green Gryphon Inn".
p.20 First/Main Floor section 4. Great-room "and ceiling of heavy" - I think this should be "and a ceiling of heavy" although I'm uncertain on this one. Also, in the same section, Olivia's elder son is called Makel; everywhere else he seems to be called "Balek".
p.23 Map. I can't find a number 29. I think the 27 in the bottom left for the room that opens onto the corridor should be 29. I can't find a 31; I think the staircase on the top left should be it, and I can't find a 40, I think the corridor leading to 41 for the Tower, Fifth Floor map should be labelled as such.
p.30 Mysterious Lights at Night section "Gryhonburgh Inn" - I think this should say "Green Gryphon Inn" and may need to be in italics.
p.30 Barrows & Tombs section "( a great battle in the" - There's a space between the opening bracket and the "a".

More cases where italics are not always used. Not sure if this is deliberate or not.

p.15 section 8: Phoenix Arms and King's Inn are not in italics.
p.17 section 1.0 Green Gryphon Inn is not in italics
p.27-28 River Control section - Flute Key is in normal text; in the Portal section on p.28 the first occurrence is in italics and the second use, and where it just says Flute, are in normal text.
p.31 Section 1.0 "Green Gryphon Inn" - Possibly should be in italics.
p.32 Section 3.0 "Blackmoor Tavern" - Possibly should be in italics.
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2015, 04:31:21 AM »
Thanks for these so far, egdcltd. And this is why we wait a little while before sending out the Pod version!

And naturally, when I fix the errata, everyone who already purchased the PDF will be able to download an updated one for free through RPGNow.
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2015, 11:42:20 AM »
p.36 As A Helpful Friend section, Herbs "The Vicarage his a small" - Should be "has".
p.36 As A Helpful Friend section, Advice, sentence starting "(he is vague about why," - There is no closing bracket for this.
p.37 Lord Isoor Maglean "100's" - I think, not sure on this, that it should be "100s".
p.38 Section 11.3 "Jamer" - Not sure, should this be Jameri?
p.40 Section 12.2 "Malica val Toren There are" - Missing full stop between Toren and There.
p.41 Major Events date 4•?•6053 - Probably should be 4•31•6053
p.45 "(it is Earthwarden" - This bracket never closes.
p.46 "GM Note: it is possible that one or more PCs might" - Probably should have a capital for "It".
p.47 "GM Note: describe the message in detail, and try to" - Probably should have a capital for "Describe".
p.47 Parchment description "(see the sidebar about the Talismans).)" - Extra closing bracket.
p.48 The Big Picture section "Serpent cult" - "Cult" should probably be capitalised.
p.49 "Giant Spider: webs" - "Webs" should probably be capitalised.

More italics.
p.39 Section 11.6 "Green Gryphon" is in normal text.
p.48 "Eagle Arms" is in normal text.
p.49 "Blackmoor" is in normal text.
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2015, 08:57:11 PM »
p. 15 Market Square "see the table below." I believe the table referred to is back on p. 6 "Days of the Week."
p. 31 Right after the narration text, "oliva" is misspelled.
p. 32 At the beginning of the 2nd column, Medan is spelled "Bredan."
p. 38 Pel Frankis has "read" hair; Leb Grebner- is an "i" left off the end of "jamer?"
p. 39 Bref Belerion- "pit" instead of "bit"
p. 43 Denouement- should be "will give" instead of "will given"
         

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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2015, 12:13:27 AM »
No Power points included in NPC statistics. This might be intentional for RM2 stats, but in RMSS stats there are spell casting static maneuver category bonuses thus one would except PPDev skill...

NPC profession are only listed in RM2 stats.

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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2015, 02:18:48 AM »
No Power points included in NPC statistics. This might be intentional for RM2 stats, but in RMSS stats there are spell casting static maneuver category bonuses thus one would except PPDev skill...

NPC profession are only listed in RM2 stats.

Hmm, well since I stopped giving Stats in RM2, the RMSS converter would have nothing to go on for PP I guess? Professions is a different issue.
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2015, 03:55:10 AM »
p.3 "PART III” PEOPLE OF INTEREST" - Should be "PART III: PEOPLE OF INTEREST"
p.3 "Temerik Laurin Former Loremaster" - Should probably be "Temerik Laurin, Former Loremaster"
p.3 "Daenica Strall Laurin’s Assistant" - Should probably be "Daenica Strall Laurin’s, Assistant"
p.49 Penalties "Gryphon amulet" - Should probably be "Gryphon Amulet"
p.49 Scene 2 "Gryphon amulet" - Should probably be "Gryphon Amulet"
p.50 Gaming Details section "Help with the light-writing From Laurin" - I think this should be "Help with the light-writing from Laurin"
p.54 Gaming Details section "Gryphon dagger" - Should probably be "Gryphon Dagger"
p.55 Tomb Layout section 2 "Gryphon amulet" - Should probably be "Gryphon Amulet"
p.55 Tomb Layout section 3 "gryphon amulet" - Should probably be "Gryphon Amulet"
p.55 Scene 4 "mounds—or even tombs— in" - Looks like there's an unneeded space after tombs—
p.56 "gryphon amulet" - Should probably be "Gryphon Amulet"
p.59 "when repairs are cmplete" - Should be "when repairs are complete"
p.61 "High-elves" - Not sure on this one, should it be "High-Elves" or High Elves"?
p.64 Kester's Goals and Methods section "Kester—like all his brethren—prefer" - Should probably be "Kester—like all his brethren—prefers"
p.66 The PCs Are Alone section "priests of Scalu" - As fac mentioned, Andaras is the cat god, so this should probably be "priests of Andaras"
p.67 10. Vegetables "carrots, peas, tomatoes." - Should probably be "carrots, peas and tomatoes."
p.83 Index "bridge powers", "owls", "piezocrystals"and "temerik laurin" all need capitalising.
p.83 Index "majan" has tow entries with different numbers, one entry isn't capitalised. These should probably be replaced with one, capitalised entry.
p.83 Other Shadow World Books section, Shadow World Player Guide says "full-color" whilst all the other say "full color"
p.83 Other Shadow World Books section, The Loremaster Legacy, "DrivethruFiction" should be "DriveThruFiction"

In the adventures, the format of how the adventure names are used when they are referred to in other adventures isn't consistent. A minor point admittedly.
p.48 "Art Project" - normal text and in inverted commas
p.57 "Art Project" - normal text
p.62 "Eight Eyes" - italics and inverted commas
p.62 "The Good Son" - normal text and in inverted commas
p.62 "Petty Theft?" - bold text

More italics
p.60 "Blackmoor Tavern" - normal text
p.69 "Green Gryphon Inn" - normal text

And that's my first read through of the book. I like it.
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2015, 04:09:41 AM »
I double-checked the stats

RM2 characters do not all have PPs.

RMSS versions do have PPs.

Charles would not have included professions in his conversion tables because none of them needed to change.

The typos that evaded and survived my scrutiny are annoying but we will get them fixed.

Thank you all  for catching these.

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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2015, 04:20:51 AM »
Whew! Thanks egdcltd on that extremely thorough listing. Fortunately, the vast majority are minor typos and usage consistency.

A lot of this is use of italics, which I admit I need to have a policy about and stick to it. I like to give the names of places like The Green Gryphon Inn in italics, like Tolkien did with The Prancing Pony, but then when I was working on Loremaster Legacy, I was told by that editor that only ships should be italicized (?). And then there is a rule about italicizing a new term (e.g., xenium) when it is first introduced, but then not after that...

So what about the content? The GM text, the adventures, the new background and city material?
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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2015, 06:53:04 AM »

RMSS versions do have PPs.

Charles would not have included professions in his conversion tables because none of them needed to change.

Nicholas

 :-[  I completely missed new column in RMSS stats. I noticed that Emer III  also had this new style stat block that includes PP's in some cases but in different position.  I do like this new style - however old style where spells and PP's are in same location has merits.

I did expect to see professions in stat part  - for two reasons
 a) Some might only use RMSS and thus miss the profession.
 b) RM2 has more professions and RM2/RMSS profession may differ. Terry sometimes uses those e.g. necromancer. However in this book professions are same.

I personally use Priest of Arnak spells as is in RMSS - what is official opinion? Should those be added to RMSS part ? Those make difference in NPC's dangerousness.


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Re: Green Gryphon Errors
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2015, 07:43:44 AM »
Just FYI, we are going to lock this thread and start new 'Errata' and general feedback threads for Green Gryphon. Egdcltd and others found some typos and minor inconsistencies, and I hope to have a new version with all those minor hiccups fixed and ready to upload in the next day or so.

Thanks,

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