Topic: SM: P VM A-2.4 Select Maneuverability (20) pp. 114 - 115

[snrdg051306]

I'm not clear on the purpose of and how to use the Minimum Units for Basic Maneuverability formula: (Units per Rating) ÷ 10 on p. 114.

I think that I have a handle on ever thing else, except the total cost which I have asked about in the topic of SM: P VM Design Example and more POSSIBLE Erratum.

Vehicles between 51 and 100 tons require 0.5 units per point maneuverability cross-referenced from the Maneuverability Units chart on p. 115.

Using the Minimum Units for Basic Maneuverability formula (Units per Rating) ÷ 10, I need (0.5 ÷ 10) or 0.05 units to have Basic Maneuverability. 

I'm guessing I have completely missed the whole point for the calculation and really need to be straightened out.

[markc]

  Step (20) is for aircraft and spacecraft only. For any aircraft or spacecraft you have to have a min amount of units to move. If you do not have the min number of units the aircraft or spacecraft is not flight worthy.
 Does that make sense?


 For movement over and above the basic you use the charts to find the bonus you would like your craft to have.


MDC

[markc]

BTW,
I looked at your Excel file you sent to me and it looks very good.
MDC

[snrdg051306]

Hello MarkC,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I seem to have double clicked on the Notify/Unnotify button.

A spacecraft or aircraft must have, in the calculation in my original post, must have 0.05 operating thrusters/jet drives.

Thank-you for looking at the spreadsheet.

[snrdg051306]

MarkC, Defendi, or Marc R can any of you please tell me what is the true cost factor/multiplier used for Maneuverability?

I introduced the question in this topic: SM: P VM Design Example and more POSSIBLE Erratum posted 4/1/11.

On p. 114 the factor/multiplier is 20k, unfortunately the example on p. 115 shows the factor/multiplier as 10,000.

If the factor/multiplier is 20k then the final cost of the TMAC is off by ¢100,000.

[Marc R]

It's possible it was one, then the other. . . .you're going to need to await on Defendi for a better answer than that.

[snrdg051306]

Thanks Marc R, I'm hoping Defendi can shed light on this one, of course being all for reduced cost I'd go with the ¢10,000.

[Defendi]

I would go with the non-example version.

[snrdg051306]

Thank Defendi,

Total Cost of Maneuverability is equal to (# of Units) x 20k per the equation on SM: P VM p. 114.

The use of 20k adds another ¢100,000 to the price.

I have condensed the design example for A-2.4 Complete Vehicle Constructions Rules and inserted the Payload Pallet hard point mass, volume, and cost adjustments.

I also noted that Step 19 Select Point Defense System p. 114 does not mention Power Cost in the example text, but the calculations for Power does include a the power draw of 5 power.

I will include the Total Cost of Maneuverability adjustment in the document.

Who should I submit the final document to for review?

[markc]

 Are you talking about the errata to review or the spread sheet? I think the downloads section has a a submit button that will get to the people who need to see it.
 Also be sure to include what you intend to do with it or want to do with it.


 MDC

[snrdg051306]

My bad, I'm referring to the condensed Design Example text I've created in MS Word.

The document is 6 pages long with the adjustments to mass, volume, and cost for the hard point required by the installation of the torpedo payload pallet.

In addition to the correction to mass, volume, and cost I've suggested text to be added to the existing instructions on how to handle adding the hard point. The changes will also reflect stuff like the missing text for PDS power and for using 20k to calculate Total Cost of Maneuverability.

I'll check the download section when I'm done working through the design example. Thnaks for the reply MarkC

[markc]

 IMHO yes the Vault-Download section would be the place to submit it to. I think everyone will be grateful for your work and effort.
 In fact it might be good for ICE to also give it out for all sales of SMP VM when it gets up if the doc does not get reedited in the process.
MDC

[snrdg051306]

My main reason is to help me get a handle on the system and if providing the result to the forum or an associated web page I'll be happy.

[Marc R]

You can upload documents to the vault, or submit them to TGC as articles.

[snrdg051306]

Thanks Marc R for the clarification. I've been side tracked by Step 24 Select AI Systems which reference SM: P RM that states an AI is designed like a Android/Robot. When I've completed the design example I'll figure out which method to provide the suggested corrections.