Quote from: Cory Magel on Today at 01:57:33 PM

Quote from: 5th Knight of Xar on Today at 01:15:38 PM

...your basic understanding of how AI generated images are done is wrong.

You don't think they're generated using a combination of examples of many pieces of art... just like most living artists do?

My reply #33 and #36 should have answered this already.

You're going to need to be more specific.  Both AI and human artists use existing art to generate derivative art from.

[q]AI generators use and merge pre-existing images, they can never in the near future learn to paint something on their own without relying on scraped databases of images and photos made by humans, scraped and used without said artists consent.[/q]
How does this differ from a human basing their new art on past art?

[q]We're not arguing about inspiration. I think there is where you get this wrong. Programs can't be inspired, they act from programmed algorithms, in this case AI image generators copy/cut/paste human artist's works put very simple, to generate new images. AI generators don't paint images pixel by pixel.[/q]
Are you implying something partially copied by hand is okay but something partially copied digitally is not?

So... Nicholas tasked me to have the manuscript finished by May. And it's nearly there. I expect to deliver it to him in the coming week. The manuscript itself is already ready and has been for a few days but I'm spending this time planning out the future products and cross-referencing against the work I have already done on the first adventure. I want to make sure that it all lines up and I don't have to retcon a load of stuff.

Next step is layout. The changes are pretty big so it's not as easy as adding a few bits in here and there. On the plus side, the art exists so that shouldn't slow it down.

In other good news I am further along than I had thought on the first adventure and working on the core book has renewed my enthusiasm for getting it done.

This is a nice read for anyone advocating for the use of AI generated content in games and rpg books, from the 2023 Wizards of the Coast AI controversy. Wizards has since this "blew up" stated they are banning the use of AI generated content in any of their final products:
https://www.polygon.com/24029754/wizards-coast-magic-the-gathering-ai-art-marketing-image

And yet here you still are, being as obnoxious and closed minded as usual, failing to grasp that your opinion isn't a 'fact'.

I opted out of the AI discussion with you as continuing would be futile.
I'm also sorry to see that you are resolving to personal attacks and attempts at defamation when being explained that your basic understanding of how AI generated images are done is wrong.

Quote from: Cory Magel on May 04, 2024, 01:31:14 PM

Or how stuck in your ways or closed minded you are.

Don't shoot the messenger, I'm only showing you the fundamentals of how AI generators works(tried to, it didn't hit home). This is why I opted out of the AI image discussion above here, as you have failed to grasp the basics which makes this "discussion" a small waste of time.

And yet here you still are, being as obnoxious and closed minded as usual, failing to grasp that your opinion isn't a 'fact'.

The "cataclysm" being lawmakers stating that AI content providers must pay royalties for every piece they use for training.

I don't see it happening. The legality of the whole thing isn't on the side of the artists strong enough to make a case. They will need to show that work is being copied nearly outright, sold as and profited from as a wholesale fake.  Here are some bit taken from explanations of 'derivative' art.

...include major copyrightable elements of a first...

Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes.

Originality of a derivative work means any variation of an original work which is sufficient to render the derivative work distinguishable from its prior work in any meaningful manner.

The vast majority of AI art doesn't qualify as those. It's also subjective to a good degree in the first place, but in a legal matter it would need to be fairly obvious (and maybe detrimental to the original artist to qualify as well).