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Offline alloowishus

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Question about lifegiving and lifekeeping herbs
« on: February 06, 2023, 06:32:57 PM »
An elf character was recently given a fatal crush critical that "destoryed a variety of internal organs" and was going to die in 6 rounds. One of the players had a lifegiving for elves herb and gave it to her. So what is the ruling on the organ damage? What exactly does the lifegiving do? My ruling is that the lifegiving brought her back to life but did not heal the organ damage. The players would be required to give her a lifekeeping herb (1 day duration) every day until the organ damage is repaired. What's consensus on this?

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Re: Question about lifegiving and lifekeeping herbs
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2023, 07:33:22 PM »
If memory serves, Lifegiving specifically states that it heals no damage, it just puts the soul back in the body. If the body won't support life, they'll just die all over again.

So my take would be either that yes, they'd have to do Lifekeeping over and over until they can heal the damage, or let her die, heal the damage, and do Lifegiving.

Keep in mind that if you let her die, the corpse degrades unless you do Preservation. As Terry Pratchett says, it gets "manky."
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Re: Question about lifegiving and lifekeeping herbs
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2023, 04:23:01 AM »
We ruled it as keeping the body in a "medicinally induced coma."  The organs still need to be repaired (there are herbs for this barring having a high level healer), bones have to be repaired, etc.  When sufficient enough trauma has been repaired/healed, the patient will gradually come out of the coma.
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Re: Question about lifegiving and lifekeeping herbs
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2023, 05:00:44 AM »
An elf character was recently given a fatal crush critical that "destoryed a variety of internal organs" and was going to die in 6 rounds. One of the players had a lifegiving for elves herb and gave it to her. So what is the ruling on the organ damage? What exactly does the lifegiving do? My ruling is that the lifegiving brought her back to life but did not heal the organ damage. The players would be required to give her a lifekeeping herb (1 day duration) every day until the organ damage is repaired. What's consensus on this?

The way you describe it, is the way we would have handled the herb and use of this particular herb in our own setting.

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Re: Question about lifegiving and lifekeeping herbs
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2023, 08:16:00 AM »
Ok thanks everyone. So it seems that lifegiving would only work to bring a character completely back to life is if they were given a massive amount of concussion damage to go to negative their con stat? Everything else would either be bleeding to death or a crit that killed the character.