Topic: Resurrecting the Nomikos Library?

[Peter R]

If you're serious about actually implementing this sort of thing, you'll probably want to use a database back end with a GUI (with the ability to export to .txt or such) in order to provide the selection ability as well as the access limitations.

My first pass at a DB schema would be something like:

Level: Common/Educated/Esoteric/Secret
  OR
HRanks: # of history ranks needed

Location: Kulthea (world-wide)/Emer/Jaiman/etc.
Topics: K'ta'viiri/Altha/Earthwardens/Jerak Arenreth/etc [This could be very long]
Access: Player/GM
[Any other searchable category should be listed here as well with a defined set of values.]
Event: Text of event here (this could be searchable too via the interface)

A lot of the work would be defining all the tag values and getting them associated with the text entries.  The DB and UI itself could use MySQL/Java/Python and probably coded up in a few days at most by any decent programmer; refinements could of course take a long time.

Users would be listed in a separate table along with their permission level; again, easy to set up, but would then take a bit more work if the maintainer(s) wanted a GUI or such and not willing to type raw SQL at a command line.

Yeah you're right but it isn't going to happen. Instead I am going to implement the library within the existing wordpress structure and use available plugins for access. This gives a development time of just a few hours and costs of zero to produce a robust end result.

[Malim]

WIKI yes please!

[Terry K. Amthor]

Naturally, Nicholas and I are going to need to see this before it goes public.

Terry

[Peter R]

Naturally, Nicholas and I are going to need to see this before it goes public.

Terry

It is my understanding that BHanson is going to prepare a spreadsheet of the GM and Player information. It would be easier for me if you and Nicholas checked that file before I prepared it for import into the database.

[brandivil]

Hi all,

Yes, I'm still active  .  I have vast amounts of data on SW about all continents and places.  This is all stored using MS OneNote as it allows for links to be embedded, pictures, text, spreadsheet. (OneNote has vertical and horizontal tabs and allows easy links between ONeNote workbooks.)

The timeline info is all stored on one tab; but every country and place  has its timeline written also but only specific to it...hope that makes sense!?

Also, every race, their background, stats and all major powers are recorded with context.  There's much more...the idea being that as a GM you can find relevant info very quickly.

I was thinking it might be best to first share the OneNote with the right person to review...it probably has too much info to share publicly without impinging on copyright or impacting sales...it's not 100% complete, more like 60% but still very useful for me.

What next?

[B Hanson]

We are just looking for the raw timeline material (from ALL the canon books) to compile as the basis of the Nomikos. I'm not sure if OneNote works for what Peter has in mind, but if you have that data you should reach out to him through the forums or Rolemasterblog.com.

[Malim]

Hi all,

Yes, I'm still active  .  I have vast amounts of data on SW about all continents and places.  This is all stored using MS OneNote as it allows for links to be embedded, pictures, text, spreadsheet. (OneNote has vertical and horizontal tabs and allows easy links between ONeNote workbooks.)

The timeline info is all stored on one tab; but every country and place  has its timeline written also but only specific to it...hope that makes sense!?

Also, every race, their background, stats and all major powers are recorded with context.  There's much more...the idea being that as a GM you can find relevant info very quickly.

I was thinking it might be best to first share the OneNote with the right person to review...it probably has too much info to share publicly without impinging on copyright or impacting sales...it's not 100% complete, more like 60% but still very useful for me.

What next?

That sounds like stuff of high value in my opinion.
I would like to get my hands on that, to compare what we made our self.

[Peter R]

We are just looking for the raw timeline material (from ALL the canon books) to compile as the basis of the Nomikos. I'm not sure if OneNote works for what Peter has in mind, but if you have that data you should reach out to him through the forums or Rolemasterblog.com.

I have no computer with me at the moment but have checked the MS support site and I can definitely export from onenote into a more interchangeable format. So onenote is good.

[Malim]

http://merp.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Rolemaster

There is this!

[brandivil]

Hi all, managed to share my OneNote shadow world info with B Hanson - see what he makes of it.

/edit - with Peter I mean 

[Peter R]

I do not think much will happen until Brian gets back from vacation.

I have the onenote files but I never saw the old Nomikos Library so I do not know what we are aiming for.

[Terry K. Amthor]

I am all in favor of this, as long as there are some controls on access, which I believe are going to be in place. Since a new Atlas could be a ways off (and the timeline keeps growing—just wait for Emer IV!), this could be a valuable resource for GMs, and even players in a game environment, trying to learn things in the Nomikos Library. So, levels of access would be important.

[Peter R]

What I would like from you Terry is the exact wording you requested to be in the footer of every page.

You are right that the content will be behind a password wall.

All I require is "Shadow World® is a registered trademark of Terry K. Amthor." But you also need a copyright statement from Nicholas, which will be more involved. It will be something like "All material is copyright © 1980-2018 Iron Crown Enterprises, all rights reserved, no reproduction in any form is permitted without express permission." but Nicholas might have more.

[brandivil]

*nudge*

[B Hanson]

Im plugging away at it. More than 1/2 way through the books, but going to go back at cross check all versions of SWMA

[brandivil]

Cool - thanks, it can be tedious to compile!

[Terry K. Amthor]

Definitely a lot of material. More to come with revisions and Emer IV, sorry!