Topic: RMC Arms Tables vs. RMSS Arms Tables

[HawksNut]

Can anyone tell me if the arms tables are materially different between the two systems? I own a lot of RMSS material but no RMC.

[Cory Magel]

There are differences, but I don't know as if you'd really notice them in practice.  Personally I'd rather have the RMSS ones just so it jives with all our books, but I don't know of anything so drastically different that there'd be a problem.

I regularly pull weapon and critical tables from other versions of RM as-is.  Spell lists I will alter however since the power balance is not always on par from version to version.

[Defendi]

There are probably very slight differences in the attack charts. They hand tweeked the damage and crits more than once during Arms Law's life.  The closest thing I can think of to a big difference was the 00 E Slash Crit (the groin shot crit). IIRC correctly, in the old version, the victim survived it in a terrible ironic punishment. In the RMSS version, they added a death result.  I don't know what version RMC uses.  Also, I'm not POSITIVE I remember the old charts correctly, but that result was always a legend in my groups (which means it's possible that we willfully misread it).

[OLF, i.e. Olf Le Fol]

The RM2 100 slash critical reads: "Strike to foe's groin area. +10 hits. All vitals are destroyed immediately. Foe is stunned and unable to parry for 12 rounds."
The RMSS merely explicitely mentions that, yes, having all of one's (lower) vitals destroyed implies one's imminent death because, apparently, it wasn't obvious enough for some people.

[Defendi]

Well, we never interpreted those vitals as necessity for living. Just for quality of life.

[yammahoper]

Well, we never interpreted those vitals as necessity for living. Just for quality of life.

 

[Spectre771]

Well, we never interpreted those vitals as necessity for living. Just for quality of life.

Given that circumstance, that critical, and the remaining quality of life, I would ask the GM for death just out of sheer principal!!!

I have to agree with Defendi though.  RM was usually pretty specific.  Unless it said "Death/Dies", that poor bastard is still alive in a cruel irony of fate.  The vitals in the groin area aren't particularly necessities of life, just joie de vie and desire to continue adventuring!

What if it were a female PC?

[Cory Magel]

At least ask to be given the points for a Eunuch flaw.