Topic: Pathological Leaving spell situations

[Jengada]

I've got a wizard's lair coming up for my players, and that both directly and indirectly prompted some odd potential Leaving spell questions. They center on the "barrier" aspect of Leaving, and "A barrier is anything he could not physically go through; a closed door is a barrier, a pit is not."
Scenario 1: There is a Feel Illusion of a wall across a hallway. Is that a physical barrier? It has to be violently struck to dispel, so is it any less of a barrier than an unlocked door or a wall of paper?
Scenario 2: There is a Sign of Fear across the hallway set to trigger if anyone crosses the boundary. If someone Leaves from one side of it to the other, do they trigger it?

[nash]

So for #1:  A barrier is a barrier.  A feel illusion is a real barrier (you could walk on it (carefully)).   So that will stop Leaving.

And #2 is the like the canonical Leaving use - to bypass a dangerous location.   So yeah; assuming they start and end outside the area of effect, no Sign impact.

[Hurin]

I agree with Nash. Also, I think someone could Leave right through a sign of fear, because they could physically go through it, even if mentally they are not allowed to. (Consider for example if someone were affected by a fear spell but then a party member picked them up and carried them through. I would think the feared person would kick and scream but would not be held up by some invisible barrier. The 'could' is more permission than physical impossibility).

[Jengada]

Those were both of my answers, as well. For the Sign, I was entertaining the thought that, if set across a passageway, it could constitute a barrier, but it really isn't - it's just something with a consequence for passing it. It's no more a barrier than a pressure plate on the floor.