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Cyradon / Re: Cryadon setting book
« Last post by Colin-ICE on May 05, 2024, 02:33:30 PM »
So... Nicholas tasked me to have the manuscript finished by May. And it's nearly there. I expect to deliver it to him in the coming week. The manuscript itself is already ready and has been for a few days but I'm spending this time planning out the future products and cross-referencing against the work I have already done on the first adventure. I want to make sure that it all lines up and I don't have to retcon a load of stuff.

Next step is layout. The changes are pretty big so it's not as easy as adding a few bits in here and there. On the plus side, the art exists so that shouldn't slow it down.

In other good news I am further along than I had thought on the first adventure and working on the core book has renewed my enthusiasm for getting it done.
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Rolemaster / Re: Rolemaster Unified art: what happened?
« Last post by Cory Magel on May 05, 2024, 01:57:33 PM »
...your basic understanding of how AI generated images are done is wrong.
You don't think they're generated using a combination of examples of many pieces of art... just like most living artists do?
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Rolemaster / Re: Rolemaster Unified art: what happened?
« Last post by 5th Knight of Xar on May 05, 2024, 01:43:56 PM »
This is a nice read for anyone advocating for the use of AI generated content in games and rpg books, from the 2023 Wizards of the Coast AI controversy. Wizards has since this "blew up" stated they are banning the use of AI generated content in any of their final products:
https://www.polygon.com/24029754/wizards-coast-magic-the-gathering-ai-art-marketing-image
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Rolemaster / Re: Rolemaster Unified art: what happened?
« Last post by 5th Knight of Xar on May 05, 2024, 01:33:42 PM »

For RMU, what we really want is just better art. Can we agree on that, at least? :)


Creature Law 1 is near being published in pdf-form, with Creature Law 2 "most likely" having most if not all art commissioned already. There was a plan of publishing posted(on Discord?) by ICE last year saying that all 5 core RMU books would be out within 2024. Due to this, I would say it is very unlikely that any art will be swapped for anything new.
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Rolemaster / Re: Rolemaster Unified art: what happened?
« Last post by 5th Knight of Xar on May 05, 2024, 01:15:38 PM »

And yet here you still are, being as obnoxious and closed minded as usual, failing to grasp that your opinion isn't a 'fact'.


I opted out of the AI discussion with you as continuing would be futile.
I'm also sorry to see that you are resolving to personal attacks and attempts at defamation when being explained that your basic understanding of how AI generated images are done is wrong.
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Rolemaster / Re: [RMU] Creating a Lightsaber with Treasure Law
« Last post by cdcooley on May 05, 2024, 12:21:57 PM »
Of course it would be unwieldy. You're building a super-weapon. The idea of combining all of that into a single spell doesn't fit the model of how alchemy works. You're contemplating combining dozens of effects, some of which are already level 35 or higher into a single spell? On a practical level it would be completely useless since the level would be well over 200. There is no benefit to creating some sort of super-spell that would bypass the magic merging feature build into the very nature of alchemy magic.
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Rolemaster / Re: Rolemaster Unified art: what happened?
« Last post by Cory Magel on May 05, 2024, 11:16:27 AM »


Or how stuck in your ways or closed minded you are.
Don't shoot the messenger, I'm only showing you the fundamentals of how AI generators works(tried to, it didn't hit home). This is why I opted out of the AI image discussion above here, as you have failed to grasp the basics which makes this "discussion" a small waste of time.
And yet here you still are, being as obnoxious and closed minded as usual, failing to grasp that your opinion isn't a 'fact'.

The "cataclysm" being lawmakers stating that AI content providers must pay royalties for every piece they use for training.
I don't see it happening. The legality of the whole thing isn't on the side of the artists strong enough to make a case. They will need to show that work is being copied nearly outright, sold as and profited from as a wholesale fake.  Here are some bit taken from explanations of 'derivative' art.

...include major copyrightable elements of a first...

Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes.

Originality of a derivative work means any variation of an original work which is sufficient to render the derivative work distinguishable from its prior work in any meaningful manner
.

The vast majority of AI art doesn't qualify as those. It's also subjective to a good degree in the first place, but in a legal matter it would need to be fairly obvious (and maybe detrimental to the original artist to qualify as well).
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Rolemaster / Re: Rolemaster Unified art: what happened?
« Last post by MisterK on May 05, 2024, 10:21:39 AM »
For RMU, what we really want is just better art. Can we agree on that, at least? :)
I'm pretty sure the whole point of the discussion was "what is the price of having better art ?" :-P
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Rolemaster / Re: [RMU] Creating a Lightsaber with Treasure Law
« Last post by Thot on May 05, 2024, 08:13:13 AM »
Well, you can add extra crits, but there's nothing to replace a regular blade with space magic. But give it constant Light spell of some kind to make it bright, add an extra Heat crit with Additional Crit III, and to ensure it is OP, Increased Size True.

You could even make it defend against ranged attacks by embedding Deflections; you'd probably want to make this a Constant effect.

That would work! However, it would be quite unwieldy. Suppose some Adept wanted to combine all that into one neat package: An Alchemical spell  (possibly on the weapons enchantment list) that has all these abilities. And for good measure, we also add the Multiform II spell's effect into that… what level should it have?
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Rolemaster / Re: Rolemaster Unified art: what happened?
« Last post by Thot on May 05, 2024, 08:06:00 AM »
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The "cataclysm" being lawmakers stating that AI content providers must pay royalties for every piece they use for training.

Even if that ever happened: That would just mean they'd train it on public domain content.

Guys, this whole AI development has way more implications than just art. We will all be out of our current jobs eventually. And that's okay, as long as everybody still have a livelihood. But that's a discussion for quite different forums.

For RMU, what we really want is just better art. Can we agree on that, at least? :)


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